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"there is no reason to question the integrity of his officials."

Really, why would I? Oh yeah, because of all the bad calls which help certain teams win. Well, anyway, at least they have safegaurds in place like the NBA.

I am not a gambler, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about something here... but isn't it extremely unusual for 2/3rds of the money on any game to be on one team? That's the point of the line, isn't it, to even up betting on both sides for the house? That way they're guaranteed to come out ahead on the vigorish. That sets off some warning bells immediately.

Couple that with a game in which penalty yardage was 115-5, AND there was a final decisive play that would have changed the betting outcome but was called incorrectly, and the whole package doesn't even come close to passing the initial sniff test.

I'm not saying there's actually anything illegal going on. In the real world, coincidences do happen. But it seems like Pereira is sticking his head in the sand on something where there should be a legitimate investigation.

When are these leagues going to learn that trying to cover up and pretend nothing is wrong isn't the way to inspire confidence in their legitimacy?

No one said they were crooked. Just inconsistent and sometimes incompetent.....Jeesh..It is the league office that should always get it right, and they do not. That is the problem.

Let's not assume that every official is selling themselves out like that NBA ref did. However, I can see how people would jump to that conclusion. If it is true then this disease is truly of epic proportion. Will this mean that all referees will require a full background investigation by the government?

Ole Mile Periera can claim that "NFL games are not fixed" until the cows come home.

But the facts are the facts. And the fact remains that the odor of 'the fix being in permeates the way the officials handled the last play of the Steelers game.

There are simply too many loopholes in how they handled this call. On the spot, in the booth, and the explanations afterward.

Mikes "insistence" defies belief.

Throw in the penalty ratio (13-2), and the $65 million dollar swing. That's one hell of a lot of coincidences. Not to mention Donaghy.

But according to Mike; The officials in the booth talked the referee" into such a confused state,"

Great breakdown on how the play was mishandled, Mike

Ok, let's move on. Mike says they talked the poor guy into a confused state.

Yeah, thats's the ticket, and I'm a Chinese avaiator.

Definitely fixed, yes sir.

lol. no the refs are just blind. as is the replay booth. and the league office. and the HR dept. and ...

urm. perhaps it is.

I've thought they were fixed. Especially since Roger Goodell is in bed with Robert Kraft.

If the Vegas opinion mattered it would mark a conflict of interest. Just ignore their whining and let's move on.

Yeah, that's what Donaghy said too.

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Originally posted 11:45 AM ET  11.23 by arejaydub

Yeah, that's what Donaghy said too.

What up rj? Long time no talky to.

I don't think its fixed but if they allow incompetance of this nature that's what people will think. This ref is horrible, he knows it and allowed himself to be talked out of something. No ref should fall for the "Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin eyes" line. Bad officials also tend to call penalties on one team and then continue to do it because now they're looking at that team and they're too dumb to realize it.
I'd be curious to know how many of those penalties were called by that particular guy. I can't believe the whole crew is corrupt

Don't confuse incompetience with "fixing".

I thought it looked a little fishy that Marv Lewis kicked a field goal with 7 min. left in the thursday night game. His team was down by 13, the field goal brought them within 10.
The point spread was 10 1/2.
Bad coaching, yes......Fixing no..

This reminds me of when Nixon stated "I'm not a crook".... what more validation did we need?

The biggest problem is the arbitrary holding and illegal block calls..... flagrant holds on the DE coming around the corner are not called, while an offensive guard is called for holding while keeping his hands in and shoving a DT to the ground..... even former O-linemen on the telecasts can't explain half of the calls.....

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Originally posted 02:21 PM ET  11.23 by Sir Robin (again)

The biggest problem is the arbitrary holding and illegal block calls..... flagrant holds on the DE coming around the corner are not called, while an offensive guard is called for holding while keeping his hands in and shoving a DT to the ground..... even former O-linemen on the telecasts can't explain half of the calls.....

You couldn't see it on TV, but on a fourth quarter kick off return (Steelers-Chargers) it looked like the steeler return man (Russell ?) was turning the corner for a TD. The offocial, on the opposite side and on the goal line, threw a flag for holding. The hold that he called was 40 + yards away from him, on the opposite side of the field.

Right... and the pope's Jewish

Periera says the games are not fixed because he knows all of the officials personally, and knows them well. I dont know about everybody else, but I feel much better now.