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Leaving in the Cleveland area I never knew that the Indians had a need for a closer. Thanks Cleveland Plain Dealer you are still a worthless fish wrap. Try telling the world something that hasn't been talked about since the start of the 08 season.

Opps, that Living in the Cleveland area not Leaving. Maybe a Freudian Slip there.

krod & fuentes are the only FA closers a 'serious' team
should be looking at- Hoff is 140years old and done
and wood is a strong breeze away from another DL stint

QUOTE(#3):

Originally posted 09:07 AM ET  11.30 by jgb

krod & fuentes are the only FA closers a 'serious' team should be looking at- Hoff is 140years old and doneand wood is a strong breeze away from another DL stint

I think Hoffman will be the best value of the four. He's not done.

shat! if the Indians don't want Orlando (the bloom is off) Hudson then **** neither do I want to see him be got by the Yankees now, either. Those rumors of Robbie Cano being in the best shape of his life better be true, though.
Indians maybe should go for Fuentes but not at the money he is asking and for the years he is asking. He seems the best of a shaky lot for now.

QUOTE(#4):

Originally posted 09:09 AM ET  11.30 by The Walrus

I think Hoffman will be the best value of the four. He's not done.

Trevor Hoffman has saome pretty good numbers but it just seems to me that good ole trev has been in some key situations and not exactly set the barn afire in those situations. and, no, I am not gonna go look up every little instance he choked.

And Paul tell your pal Slinky I said the other week to keep the damn lake effect snow up there. We gots snow in CT right now..... ,had snow in Ct.. stopped now.

QUOTE(#4):

Originally posted 09:09 AM ET  11.30 by The Walrus

I think Hoffman will be the best value of the four. He's not done.

come on....
- first of all he's FORTY-

now lets look at the last 3 years....
era- INCREASING from just over 2 to just under 4
Innings- DECREASING (granted pads stink)
ER & HR's have increased (in less innings)

K-Rod would look really sexy in an Indians uniform. no ****

no *****

QUOTE(#7):

Originally posted 09:47 AM ET  11.30 by jgb

come on....- first of all he's FORTY- now lets look at the last 3 years....era- INCREASING from just over 2 to just under 4Innings- DECREASING (granted pads stink)ER & HR's have increased (in less innings)

The fact that he's forty is what will make him available for a one or two year contract.

He gave up some homers in '08 that inflated his ERA. He averaged over a strikeout per inning, a 5.11 K/BB ratio, and his WHIP was 1.04. That's decent and I'd rather have the Indians give him $4-5M than commit $60M to Rodriguez.

I think the closer role is overrated. The Indians won 93 games in '05 with Bob Wickman and 96 games in '07 with Joe Borowski.

QUOTE(#10):

Originally posted 10:08 AM ET  11.30 by Tell it like it is

Cleveland will be back next season, tough as in '07.

Bet on it.

QUOTE(#6):

Originally posted 09:29 AM ET  11.30 by 4192jc (Don't give up!)

Trevor Hoffman has saome pretty good numbers but it just seems to me that good ole trev has been in some key situations and not exactly set the barn afire in those situations. and, no, I am not gonna go look up every little instance he choked. And Paul tell your pal Slinky I said the other week to keep the damn lake effect snow up there. We gots snow in CT right now..... ,had snow in Ct.. stopped now.

What's up, JC? I tried to contain the snow, but my efforts were in vain.

i heard theres lk only 3 teams that want him??? didnt he hav 67 saves last yr...shesh i guess even if ur last name is rodriguez u wont collect cash for records unless ur first name is alex

QUOTE(#11):

Originally posted 10:30 AM ET  11.30 by SlinkyRedfoot

The fact that he's forty is what will make him available for a one or two year contract.He gave up some homers in '08 that inflated his ERA. He averaged over a strikeout per inning, a 5.11 K/BB ratio, and his WHIP was 1.04. That's decent and I'd rather have the Indians give him $4-5M than commit $60M to Rodriguez. I think the closer role is overrated. The Indians won 93 games in '05 with Bob Wickman and 96 games in '07 with Joe Borowski.

I can't argue with your last point slink-
sometimes you do catch lightning in a bottle.....

but for the most part- the 'stable' teams....playoff
contenders year after year have good closers
-yanks, sox, angels, twins-

Hoff (or any NL pitcher) in the AL might get shelled
Krod is Hoffman - change of speed guy - and 14 years younger

QUOTE(#15):

Originally posted 12:09 PM ET  11.30 by jgb

playoffcontenders year after year have good closers-yanks, sox, angels, twins-

I don't think I'd consider the Twins playoff contenders year after year. The other three? Well I think the fact that they spend a shartload of money has more to do with the fact that they're perpetual playoff contenders than the fact that they have closers. As a team with a modest payroll, I'd rather see the Indians spending those limited dollars on position players and starters.

QUOTE(#15):

Originally posted 12:09 PM ET  11.30 by jgb

Hoff (or any NL pitcher) in the AL might get shelled

I think that's a very valid concern.

QUOTE(#17):

Originally posted 12:27 PM ET  11.30 by SlinkyRedfoot

I think that's a very valid concern.

Especially from the NL West. When a pitcher like Derek Lowe looks like an ace, you know it's the Little Sisters of the Poor Baseball League.

QUOTE(#15):

Originally posted 12:09 PM ET  11.30 by jgb

Krod is Hoffman - change of speed guy - and 14 years younger

I think Rodriguez is going to get $12M for four or five years. I think that's crazy.

Don't get me wrong, he's a good closer, but he had the worst season of his career in 2008 and was, like, the seventh best closer in the majors. He should not be approaching Rivera money.

QUOTE(#15):

Originally posted 12:09 PM ET  11.30 by jgb

I can't argue with your last point slink- sometimes you do catch lightning in a bottle.....but for the most part- the 'stable' teams....playoffcontenders year after year have good closers-yanks, sox, angels, twins- Hoff (or any NL pitcher) in the AL might get shelledKrod is Hoffman - change of speed guy - and 14 years younger

Is that a picture of Trey Anastasio?