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what about the offense? i dont care who u play or how hard u play defense, if u cant put points on the board, u cant win. im glad rich rod fell on his face and i hope michigan continues to flounder

As annarbortreecity said yesterday, bring back Ron English

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Originally posted 08:21 AM ET  12.17 by biminator

As annarbortreecity said yesterday, bring back Ron English

I would have to agree........

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Originally posted 08:09 AM ET  12.17 by EAZEBACK

what about the offense? i dont care who u play or how hard u play defense, if u cant put points on the board, u cant win. im glad rich rod fell on his face and i hope michigan continues to flounder

Have a brain tumor on me you pusspocket!!!!!! What **** do you know about Michigan football?

Ok let me get this straight..

Michigans only problem was 'D' stopping the spread. This is why Lloyd was fired. You bring in RR when the offense was never broken and now you want Ron English back? You people are morons.

I thought it was pretty stupid to let English go. It is not his fault the scheme he inherited was outdated and he was stuck playing the hand he was dealt. He is a top notch coordinator who did not get a fare shake. The defense he inherited had plenty of problems and significant limitations but his manipulation of its strengths and ability to cover the limitations brought them an eleven win season was brilliant. Now they are stuck with Rich Rodriguez who has never been able to field anything more than a mediocre defense and there is nothing to suggest things are going to change given how he is recruiting and moving players around regardless of who is the coordinator. Just look at the roster, barring any position changes, Michigan is entering spring ball with two scholarship defensive tackles. The D-line is going to get steam rolled next year just like the O-line was last year. It will be even worst if and when Graham leaves for the NFL, and while he says he is staying, I wouldn't believe it until we see which underclassmen leave early.

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Originally posted 08:30 AM ET  12.17 by UofM_man

I would have to agree........

No to Ron English. No. Not at all. I remember some horrible Michigan performances on defense under English and to compare apples to oranges that man did a horrible job with Louisville's defense this past season.

Glad to see this D-Coordinator get the boot but hell no to Ron English.

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Originally posted 09:11 AM ET  12.17 by J. HOVA: PRIMETIME

No to Ron English. No. Not at all. I remember some horrible Michigan performances on defense under English and to compare apples to oranges that man did a horrible job with Louisville's defense this past season.Glad to see this D-Coordinator get the boot but hell no to Ron English.

I would argue that an occasional bad defensive performance would be on the players. Overall, I think English did a good job and brought a toughness that I really appreciated.

Looks like at least 8 of the Michigan recruits are enrolling early, that is a good sign.

Wow good thing they switched to the 3 3 5 defence or they would have had a real bad year. It worked out so well for them. Rich is a genius I tell you a gunius.

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Originally posted 09:11 AM ET  12.17 by J. HOVA: PRIMETIME

No to Ron English. No. Not at all. I remember some horrible Michigan performances on defense under English and to compare apples to oranges that man did a horrible job with Louisville's defense this past season.Glad to see this D-Coordinator get the boot but hell no to Ron English.

there were some bad defensive games for sure but English had a pipeline in southern cal starting up...we were getting recruits that we would not get without him...warren, mouton, campbell, eugene(even though he switched to LSU, he would not have even considered us without English).
All this does not matter because English runs a 4-3 himself and would never want to come back to UM after being fired anyways.

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Originally posted 08:09 AM ET  12.17 by EAZEBACK

what about the offense? i dont care who u play or how hard u play defense, if u cant put points on the board, u cant win. im glad rich rod fell on his face and i hope michigan continues to flounder

you have to give RR one of his style QBs or he is worthless. he has two early enrolling

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Originally posted 10:09 AM ET  12.17 by annarbortreecity

there were some bad defensive games for sure but English had a pipeline in southern cal starting up...we were getting recruits that we would not get without him...warren, mouton, campbell, eugene(even though he switched to LSU, he would not have even considered us without English).All this does not matter because English runs a 4-3 himself and would never want to come back to UM after being fired anyways.

English had a pipeline in Southern Cal? LOL. I wish! He was able to pick a few from Cali but it was no pipeline my friend and many he did bring in were busts. Johnny Sears? Eugene Germany? Those ring a bell?

This is another misstep by RR. I don't believe Shafer was given a fair shot but that's college football coaching for you.

It will be interesting to see who RR brings in but who ever that is, will have a lot of EXTRA pressure on him than he normally would have.

warden, i didnt not say he had one, i said he was starting one. He is friends with many head coaches in cali highschool football, namely the dude at long beach poly.
Johnny Sears sucks

Warden
seriously, what did happen to Eugene Germany? I forgot about that guy

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Originally posted 10:50 AM ET  12.17 by annarbortreecity

Wardenseriously, what did happen to Eugene Germany? I forgot about that guy

he was an eff up. And I still disagree that Ron was building a pipeline. Getting D Warren was, imho, a fluke due to Rojo going to USC. There was another player on D Warren's team that had UM interest and he opted to go to Thug U (Miami). I just don't believe that English had anything of substance in Cali. Part of the problem is most kids in that neck of the woods see the weather out in Michigan and say, "No Thanks."

I see the possibility of Hopson getting promoted. And someone brought up Pitt's ex DC Rhoads who did a good job of stifling RR's offense when he was at Pitt. Regardless, this isn't a good thing to bring in another guy who has to deal with guys who are use to the 3-3-5. Hence why I believe Hopson will be the next DC.

I would like to see them get Chavis. Not sure if he would fit in with RR though. That Rhodes wouldn't be a bad option either. I have a gut feeling they are just going to promote from within though.

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Originally posted 10:59 AM ET  12.17 by The Warden

he was an eff up. And I still disagree that Ron was building a pipeline. Getting D Warren was, imho, a fluke due to Rojo going to USC. There was another player on D Warren's team that had UM interest and he opted to go to Thug U (Miami). I just don't believe that English had anything of substance in Cali. Part of the problem is most kids in that neck of the woods see the weather out in Michigan and say, "No Thanks."

I forgot about how English lost Rojo...that was embarrassing.
I hear what you are saying about the weather too...i lived with a LA kid in college and that kid had no business in the snow...it was like cool runnings

I thought it always was the head coach's fault.