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QUOTE(#1):

Originally posted 09:06 AM ET  12.21 by Tell it like it is

Theo is smart. He knows you never, ever trade a good young arm for a catcher.

In general I would absolutely agree with you.....
but the Sox really have an abundance of good young arms
and there really aren't many good all-around catchers

They really need a catcher going forwards & if they can
get someone that can be their everyday catcher for the
next 5 years or so...I think you gotta pull the trigger

I hope thet deal Buchholz or Bowden and hold onto Masterson.

*they

gotta do it, we need catching, someone young and good who will be around for awhile. we can sacrifice bucholz, not sure if he has the makeup to be a consistant winner anyway

and definatly keep masterson, he can pitch under pressure

Oh well. Theo can go suck a rock then, because the Rangers don't need to part with any of their remaining catchers. Maybe Theo can put on the pads and get down there to catch his pitchers?

QUOTE(#2):

Originally posted 09:42 AM ET  12.21 by jgb

In general I would absolutely agree with you.....but the Sox really have an abundance of good young armsand there really aren't many good all-around catchersThey really need a catcher going forwards & if they can get someone that can be their everyday catcher for the next 5 years or so...I think you gotta pull the trigger

My feelings exactly. Actually, I agree with Becca and Kevin too. The Sox are pitching rich right now and it is by design.

Theo has put an emphasis on coaching all of the pitchers in the farm system the same way from level to level. This sytematic aproach has the benefit of having a pitcher move from one level to the next without having to change his approach or learn new terminology. Very comforting for a young player, eh.
Move Buchholz while his value is still high, the Sox need a good catcher more than they need another young pitcher who "might' be consistently good someday.

Sounds like the Red Ros are on welfare? Eerily familiar, but very funny and entertaining. Get to business and kiss up with the masters of the game who have some 25+ World Series Crowns.

what happened to bucholz being so amazing? red sox fans were wrong

**** is a bust i would trade him

QUOTE(#10):

Originally posted 11:32 AM ET  12.21 by yankeefan21142

what happened to bucholz being so amazing? red sox fans were wrong

Oh, I'm sorry, did I miss all the young, can't miss Yankees? Let's see.....

Melky Cabrera, can't get on the field in front of a washed up Damon
Ian Kennedy, the one too good to send for Santana, can't get out of the minors.
Joba Chamberlin, 2 injuries already.....
Phillip Hughes, hasn't lived up to the hype.
Robinson Cano, gets benched for mailing it in.

Did I miss anybody? At least with Buchholz, you have seen his promise play out, he was injured last year but is pitching very well in the Fall League.

QUOTE(#6):

Originally posted 10:07 AM ET  12.21 by Kevinb

and definatly keep masterson, he can pitch under pressure

He pitched some nice innings this year...

Sox need to make a deal. They need a catcher. They have a boatload of young pitching in their system. The Rangers need pitching. They have a lot of catchers. This deal should have been done weeks ago as it benefits both teams right away.

I guess Buchholz will be putting on the pads for the Sox this year. As difficultas it is to find good young pitchers, it's even more difficult to find a good young catcher.

theo is mad cause jd raped him on the gagne deal. now he's hesistant on trading the rangers buchholz for salty. i do agree, however, that the trade would definately help both teams.

jd should not back down from his asking price. the rangers have no pressure going into next season, the red sox do. let them resign varitek and his .200 avg. maybe by midseason, theo will fold under the pressure and do the deal.

QUOTE(#1):

Originally posted 09:06 AM ET  12.21 by Tell it like it is

Theo is smart. He knows you never, ever trade a good young arm for a catcher.

That's right Telly, never trade a pitcher for a catcher. Mmmmmm!

QUOTE(#10):

Originally posted 11:32 AM ET  12.21 by yankeefan21142

what happened to bucholz being so amazing? red sox fans were wrong

He still could very well be a front of the rotation starter in the future because he has nasty stuff. I think the question with him is if he can handle a place like Boston. I think they are just exploring all options before pulling the trigger. Why move him if you dont absolutely need to? There is a reason why teams want him so bad and the Sox want to keep him so bad. People around here (New England) dont seem to understand that players take time to develop. They think they should just be a hall of famer from day one or they are garbage. If they get rid of Bucholz for a catcher whos proved even less than he has that would be dumb. As a Yankees fan you should talk because you guys havent been axactley saints about Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy. Cano is gonna be awesome someday and the Yankees act like hes trash.

QUOTE(#9):

Originally posted 11:22 AM ET  12.21 by Bond 007

Sounds like the Red Ros are on welfare? Eerily familiar, but very funny and entertaining. Get to business and kiss up with the masters of the game who have some 25+ World Series Crowns.

However most of those 25 had nothing to do with spending money but by having the best scouts and gm's in the business. All the pre 1977 championships were won because of having gm's like George Weiss for many years and Lee Macphial before him. The Yankees knew talent and knew how to get it without spending mega bucks.

word nrvana, you couldn't be more right. Your also right for being the only one to mention the rangers and not the sawx or the yanks, who have nothing to do with this story.