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If you take this job you have to deal with two pre Madonnas "Butter Fingers" Edwards and "The Soldier" Winslow.

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Originally posted 07:14 AM ET  12.31 by 1st & Goal

If you take this job you have to deal with two pre Madonnas "Butter Fingers" Edwards and "The Soldier" Winslow.

Maybe the new GM and coach will get rid of both of them.

If you traded the two of them together you could probably get a used rubber and a carton of smokes!

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Originally posted 07:14 AM ET  12.31 by 1st & Goal

If you take this job you have to deal with two pre Madonnas "Butter Fingers" Edwards and "The Soldier" Winslow.

Pre Madonna would imply and up and coming singer who has a lot of disdain for the church.

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Originally posted 07:36 AM ET  12.31 by p69nutt

Maybe the new GM and coach will get rid of both of them.If you traded the two of them together you could probably get a used rubber and a carton of smokes!

You mean PRIMADONNA not pre MADOGGA!

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Originally posted 07:14 AM ET  12.31 by 1st & Goal

If you take this job you have to deal with two pre Madonnas "Butter Fingers" Edwards and "The Soldier" Winslow.

Thats the quote i meant!

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Originally posted 07:14 AM ET  12.31 by 1st & Goal

If you take this job you have to deal with two pre Madonnas "Butter Fingers" Edwards and "The Soldier" Winslow.

That is true. I would think twice on this job.

They just had a Defensive specialist in Crennel, Spagnuola is the same. I would think they are looking for someone with a history of building an offense behind him....

I have a serious question for all of you. The Browns have already begun interviewing head coaches even though they haven't agreed to terms with a General Manager. Wouldn't you want control of picking the head coach if you are to be their next G.M.? It sounds like whoever goes to Cleveland will have this owner dictating a lot of things? I would think of that as being a negative when considering Cleveland as a possible destination for a top candidate. Is the Browns owner putting the cart before the horse? Will his decision to interview coaches without the help of his future G.M. cause a top candidate to go elsewhere?

Also, one more observation... There seems to be a lot of news leaks coming from the Browns organization. I haven't seen this much news distributed from any of the other cities currently hiring with the possible exception of the Jets media. Are the Browns (and Jets for that matter) setting themselves up for a major letdown by leaking who they are interviewing next and possibly interested in? I mean, tell me that the Browns and Jet fans weren't disappointed to find out Cowher doesn't want to coach their teams. Now what happens if Cowher ends up in say... Denver and the Browns settle for Marty Schottenheimr as GM (because Pioli wasn't interested) and Brian Schottenheimer as their new HC because Mangini took more money in St. Louis? Obviously, the Browns wouldn't be making the type of splash they were hoping to when they fired Dumb and Dumber. Doesn't it behoove the ownership and front office people to keep their mouths shut on their possible personnel decisions? That's just an outsiders take. What do you guys think?

KC guy--I think all the big players are obvious, so it really doesn't matter much. Unless there is a dark horse, and all they are doing is some CYA stuff for the fans and media.

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Originally posted 07:36 AM ET  12.31 by p69nutt

Maybe the new GM and coach will get rid of both of them.If you traded the two of them together you could probably get a used rubber and a carton of smokes!

Damn you, I spit my drink all over my desk!!! LMAO that was funny!!

Not only that, but the Cavs and Indians are doing well considering the economy. 1-7 at home, lots of empty seats at the Cincy game. Lerner doesn't want to take any more chances on losing one of the best cash cows in the NFL (Browns' fans), so he is going to be very transparent.

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Originally posted 12:47 PM ET  12.31 by Dawgpounder

Not only that, but the Cavs and Indians are doing well considering the economy. 1-7 at home, lots of empty seats at the Cincy game. Lerner doesn't want to take any more chances on losing one of the best cash cows in the NFL (Browns' fans), so he is going to be very transparent.

Very good point.

Stay away from Mangini, Cleveland. He's bad blood. You can do better than that rat.

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Originally posted 03:04 PM ET  12.31 by NEPatsFan1

Stay away from Mangini, Cleveland. He's bad blood. You can do better than that rat.

They can have Herm Edwards.

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Originally posted 09:18 AM ET  12.31 by Buckeye Ace

That is true. I would think twice on this job.

There no need to THINK get RID of anyone that wants to GIVE PROBLEMS

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Originally posted 04:40 PM ET  12.31 by KC guy

They can have Herm Edwards.

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!! There is SHANAHAN at least Cleveland will have a WINNING PROGRAM very soon

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Originally posted 07:14 AM ET  12.31 by 1st & Goal

If you take this job you have to deal with two pre Madonnas "Butter Fingers" Edwards and "The Soldier" Winslow.

Actually that is "Stone Hands" Edwards!! The balls bounce off his hands not slip through. Let the "Soldier" play out his current contract, but I would not give him a longer one, the "Soldiers" health won't hold up!

From where I sit it really is a crap shoot whoever we go with. I like Shanahan but his personnel decisions are i question. Mix him up with a talent evaluator and it would be a good pick... but would he agree to that. Pioli, not if Ferentze comes with him.
I would stick with Winslow, dude has great hands when he's not injured and move him to the slot receiver, hell he doesn't block much anyway. I'll bet it goes to Pioli and Josh McDaniels.
Bottom line is it really doesn't matter they are all a crap shoot... and who the hell wants Cower anyway... friggan prima donna!

This is the problem with the browns, they replace proven losers with proven losers..and all over a few dollars....Brown fans sit back, watch the Indians and the cavs,,cause if you get Mangini welcome to 4 or 5 more years of getting blown out by the steelers and Ravens and shut out by the hapless Bengals