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may the browns land mangini. please let it happen =)

Too bad we (the Pats) can't put a franchise tag on Pioli. LOL

Why the hell would Pioli soil his reputation by going to Cleveland. And why would he go if he knew Mangina would be coaching. Crennel is way smarter than that little coffee beetch and he couldn't win in that god forsaken city.

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Originally posted 07:52 AM ET  01.02 by Housekeeping needs a rake

Too bad we (the Pats) can't put a franchise tag on Pioli. LOL

Good morning LadyCat, Here's to hoping that Pioli will value the legacy that he and Bill Belichick are building in NE

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Originally posted 07:54 AM ET  01.02 by Rex Racer

Good morning LadyCat, Here's to hoping that Pioli will value the legacy that he and Bill Belichick are building in NE

I just can't see him (Pioli) going to the same team as Mangini, ever.

I tell ya, my heartburn is starting early this year; Brady's knee infections and scar tissue, who knows WHEN or IF he'll ever come back; the Pioli situation; the Josh McDaniels situation; not to mention will Matt Cassel be staying.......Pepcid AC, here I come. lol

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Originally posted 08:03 AM ET  01.02 by Housekeeping needs a rake

I just can't see him (Pioli) going to the same team as Mangini, ever.I tell ya, my heartburn is starting early this year; Brady's knee infections and scar tissue, who knows WHEN or IF he'll ever come back; the Pioli situation; the Josh McDaniels situation; not to mention will Matt Cassel be staying.......Pepcid AC, here I come. lol

Not to worry my dear. The Pats will not let Cassel leave unless they are sure that Brady is ok. I agree that Pioli will not go where Mangini goes. And Josh McDaniel is easily replaceable.

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Originally posted 08:18 AM ET  01.02 by Rex Racer

Not to worry my dear. The Pats will not let Cassel leave unless they are sure that Brady is ok. I agree that Pioli will not go where Mangini goes. And Josh McDaniel is easily replaceable.

Personally, I think Brady is done. Not only with the Patriots, but with football itself. I have nothing but my gut feelings to go by; however, my gut says he's looking to go into politics. I really believe this injury has thrown him for a loop and the longer it takes for him to get healthy, the less attractive it will be to subject himself to that kind of trauma again.

As I said, this is all just my opinion.

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Originally posted 08:28 AM ET  01.02 by Housekeeping needs a rake

Personally, I think Brady is done. Not only with the Patriots, but with football itself. I have nothing but my gut feelings to go by; however, my gut says he's looking to go into politics. I really believe this injury has thrown him for a loop and the longer it takes for him to get healthy, the less attractive it will be to subject himself to that kind of trauma again. As I said, this is all just my opinion.

Had you said this after the 2nd or 3rd week of the season, I would have cried. With the emergence of Matt Cassel, I'm actually fine with that.

Mangini is an o.k coach the browns don't need him they need a choir of motivational speakers.

Oh how quickly you pats fan turn on Brady. No loyalty what's so ever from dirt bags like you.

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Originally posted 08:03 AM ET  01.02 by Housekeeping needs a rake

I just can't see him (Pioli) going to the same team as Mangini, ever.I tell ya, my heartburn is starting early this year; Brady's knee infections and scar tissue, who knows WHEN or IF he'll ever come back; the Pioli situation; the Josh McDaniels situation; not to mention will Matt Cassel be staying.......Pepcid AC, here I come. lol

The cap next year will be $123 million, the Pats will enter the off season $23 million under the cap. It would take $14 million to tag Cassel, Brady counts $14 million against the cap in 2009. That leaves only $8 million to fill out the roster. They may tag Cassel, but it would limit what else they could do. 2010 is an uncapped year right now, so teams could really play with that by back loading contracts, I suspect they will.
Just throwing it out there. Have no idea what they will or should do. I have to believe they will let Cassel go, you cannot keep everybody. There will be some viable, cheaper options out thee. $14 million is a lot to pay a guy you hope you never have to play..

...and as far as Mangini goes--Why the hell would we think a coach who couldn't get it done in NY could come to Cleveland and get it done. He was fired for a reason: Stay away Mangini, you will become another statistic in Cleveland, plus Browns fans have high expectations for their new coach. I doubt Mangini can deliver.

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Originally posted 08:40 AM ET  01.02 by james-browns

Oh how quickly you pats fan turn on Brady. No loyalty what's so ever from dirt bags like you.

Go peddle your papers.

Assuming the story is true, this confusion on direction strikes at the very heart of what is wrong with the Browns.

If they wish to build an organization based on the attributes of the Patriots, clearly they should hire Pioli and get out of his way. If he wants Mangini, great. If not, so be it.

One of the problems Crennel faced was a front office he was not in sync with. From Pioli's point of view bringing him back may make as much sense as bringing Mangini in or he may in fact be looking at someone totally different to run the team.

The Browns ownership clearly thinks the team is better than it is. That's a problem and that's why Romeo got canned. Since Pioli obviously has learned something from his father-in-law I'm sure he knows that you are what your record says you are. If you are bringing him in to fix your team never mind "helping" him by picking out the coach you think he needs, and I'm talking to you Randy Lerner, just open the checkbook and get him the guy he wants.

I totally understand watching Pioli, but why they want Mangini is something I cannot figure out. He's a one year wonder as a coach.

Cassels one good year means squat. Look at Ryan Grant,one good year and he want paid like he's the man and then poof becomes non-existent. Pats fans could thank him for a great fill in this year but I find it hard to believe that they would go with him over a true proven commodity like Brady.

Pats fans can thank Cassels ...sorry need coffee.

If this is the owners thinking, it reinforce the perception that the Browns are disfunctional. Look at this years new rookie coaches. They are successful due to experience GMs. Mangini in 3 years did not display good time management nor motivation. What makes you think he will be any better now.

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Originally posted 09:21 AM ET  01.02 by twelve is next

Cassels one good year means squat. Look at Ryan Grant,one good year and he want paid like he's the man and then poof becomes non-existent. Pats fans could thank him for a great fill in this year but I find it hard to believe that they would go with him over a true proven commodity like Brady.

Brady is a proven commodity but he isn't healthy and might not be for a long time. I say keep Cassel just in case Brady is a wash for the 2009 season.

Brady is facing more surgery which means a longer rehab. I'd rather have a bird in the hand than two in the bush. Just my opinion. :)

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Originally posted 09:30 AM ET  01.02 by Housekeeping needs a rake

Brady is a proven commodity but he isn't healthy and might not be for a long time. I say keep Cassel just in case Brady is a wash for the 2009 season.Brady is facing more surgery which means a longer rehab. I'd rather have a bird in the hand than two in the bush. Just my opinion. :)

Agreed, look at Reggie Bush, major knee injuries are not that easy to overcome, it usually results in multiple surgeries long rehab times and sometimes even an inability to get back to the same level.