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"per source they despise each other".......

NEXT!!

I know how you could really piss him off then, take a job in Detroit...

No, really, please....

We are about to watch another Belichick disciple go down in flames upon leaving the womb. Two more, actually.

Are there ANY Belicheck disciples that do well when they leave the nest?

The Mighty Chiefs will rise again, the Lombardi trophy has been on loan to the rest of the league for far too long...it's coming home to KC where it rightly belongs.

QUOTE(#5):

Originally posted 10:59 AM ET  01.14 by Cool Ruler

The Mighty Chiefs will rise again, the Lombardi trophy has been on loan to the rest of the league for far too long...it's coming home to KC where it rightly belongs.

you need to lay off the drugs.

Since all the Belichick disciples are going down in flames, perhaps he didn't teach them well enough.

Perhaps the problem with the Belichick disciples is that he hasn't taught them well enough, not that they are leaving. The greatest head coaches, like Bill Walsh, lost assistants all the time who went on to be successful.

QUOTE(#8):

Originally posted 12:21 PM ET  01.14 by zyellowman2

Perhaps the problem with the Belichick disciples is that he hasn't taught them well enough, not that they are leaving. The greatest head coaches, like Bill Walsh, lost assistants all the time who went on to be successful.

That is not always the case. Lombardi, one of the best coaches ever, never had any assisants that went on to become successful head coaches.

QUOTE(#8):

Originally posted 12:21 PM ET  01.14 by zyellowman2

Perhaps the problem with the Belichick disciples is that he hasn't taught them well enough, not that they are leaving. The greatest head coaches, like Bill Walsh, lost assistants all the time who went on to be successful.

Yet at the same time coaches like Lombardi never had any assistant move on to become successful head coaches.

You have to wonder if McDaniels and Pioli will fare any better than Crennel and Mangini? I think that McDaniels has a good chance with an owner like Denver has and I also think that Pioli will be successful as well. The downside for him is, he'll be getting into the coaching search a little late, if he doesn't retain Herm and he also won't have a lot of time before the NFL draft comes up. Not an ideal scenario, but that's the way it goes.

The big question really, is whether or not Mangini will be successful in Cleveland or not. This will tell the tale - was he prematurely fired from the Jerks or did it accurately depict what he is all about? Mr. Learner doesn't seem like a football guru from here, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Another thing that appears goofy from afar is Brad Seely leaving New England for the same position in Cleveland. When you are in a pretty secure setting, why would you hitch your horse up to a cart with an unknown future? There's something more that meets the eye, here. Possibly the good Mr. Seely was informed that he should be looking elsewhere? Again, that's an unknown and only subject to opinion.

It's been an interesting offseason and it's only beginning as the playoffs are still ongoing.

As far as "floating the possibility" of a Kansas City hire, it won't work. One of the Lions problems has been that they take their good old time in decisions, including hiring decisions. By that time, all the choice candidates are committed and the Lions are left with the dregs.

If the Lions haven't panicked after a third of a century of losing, they are not going to panic now.

BFD

BFD

QUOTE(#8):

Originally posted 12:21 PM ET  01.14 by zyellowman2

Perhaps the problem with the Belichick disciples is that he hasn't taught them well enough, not that they are leaving. The greatest head coaches, like Bill Walsh, lost assistants all the time who went on to be successful.

My definition of a good coach has nothing to do with how well he teaches his disciples.
Actually it is better not to show them all your tricks because when they walk out the door they are competition. (I think like Belichick, I just know it)

QUOTE(#15):

Originally posted 02:58 PM ET  01.14 by stopwhining!

My definition of a good coach has nothing to do with how well he teaches his disciples. Actually it is better not to show them all your tricks because when they walk out the door they are competition. (I think like Belichick, I just know it)

You're wrong, Belichick doesn't think... he already knows...

QUOTE(#15):

Originally posted 02:58 PM ET  01.14 by stopwhining!

My definition of a good coach has nothing to do with how well he teaches his disciples. Actually it is better not to show them all your tricks because when they walk out the door they are competition. (I think like Belichick, I just know it)

Kinda like when when my sons all of a sudden were way bigger than me, I told them " I might have showed you everything you know about fighting, but I didn't show you everything I know about fighting" Doesn't matter though, they could both kick my butt!

I ''despise" the fact that Pioli left N.E. but, that aside. you do what you have to do to win games !!!

QUOTE(#5):

Originally posted 10:59 AM ET  01.14 by Cool Ruler

The Mighty Chiefs will rise again, the Lombardi trophy has been on loan to the rest of the league for far too long...it's coming home to KC where it rightly belongs.

Now this is a true fan. Here's hoping your wish comes true. Just as long as it happens after the Cowboys win one again. Prost!!

Actually, it's not the Belichick tree. He, Crennel and Coughlin are all from the Parcells tree (NYG). It's when they branch out from the Giants, that the limbs begin to die off. And as I recall, Belichick, like Crennel, sucked in Cleveland (well, maybe's its the town). It wasn't until he started cheating that he became a "genius." I've seen him when he's unprepared (running around on the sidelines in that Indy game this season) and he's no genius. He won't win another superbowl as a head coach.

BTW, as to Lombardi, he and Landry were both from the Jim Lee Howell tree. Again, the roots begin with the NYG!