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A lot of companies do this. Right or wrong,. it isn't uncommon... I am surprised more teams HAVEN'T done this sooner.

I just knew Dick Cheney was a consultant for the Yankees...

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Originally posted 06:47 AM ET  01.29 by Remembers Grogan

A lot of companies do this. Right or wrong,. it isn't uncommon... I am surprised more teams HAVEN'T done this sooner.

I'm surprised as well, but it still doesn't look good when a team feels they need to include such clauses.

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Originally posted 07:52 AM ET  01.29 by BigBlueNJ

I'm surprised as well, but it still doesn't look good when a team feels they need to include such clauses.

Every organization, whether a sports team or not, gives its key employees access to information that would be damaging if they were to go out and sell it to someone else.

The surprise is that in sports, where the lure of selling an inside scope is so attractive, it isn't more common. Celebs do it all the time for the same reason; do you really need the nanny telling People Magazine what sort of fungus cream you have in your medicine chest?

Same thing.

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Originally posted 08:03 AM ET  01.29 by Yankee64

Every organization, whether a sports team or not, gives its key employees access to information that would be damaging if they were to go out and sell it to someone else.The surprise is that in sports, where the lure of selling an inside scope is so attractive, it isn't more common. Celebs do it all the time for the same reason; do you really need the nanny telling People Magazine what sort of fungus cream you have in your medicine chest?Same thing.

I think the reason you don't see it more often is by giving up the secrets you seriously hurt any future chance at getting a job. And if you already retired and don't have to worry about future employment, being a snitch can lead to tarnishing your reputation. Here in NY Torre is being ripped, and for good reason. He trashed the Canseco book, saying dinner table stuff shouldn't be published. He trashed David Wells for writing a book. Torre has come across as a hypocrite to the fans in NY who have read and heard those comments and now see him doing the same thing he condemned.

This is no surprise. When you throw out something so valuable, you are bound to have repercussions. So Torre told it how he saw it, thats what you get when u abuse people. I support Torre 100%. The clause is good for the orginization.

What business model? Is trying to buy a championship every year considered a business model? If so, a confidentiality pact won't stop that knowledge from getting around, it's pretty well known already...

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Originally posted 08:10 AM ET  01.29 by BigBlueNJ

I think the reason you don't see it more often is by giving up the secrets you seriously hurt any future chance at getting a job. And if you already retired and don't have to worry about future employment, being a snitch can lead to tarnishing your reputation. Here in NY Torre is being ripped, and for good reason. He trashed the Canseco book, saying dinner table stuff shouldn't be published. He trashed David Wells for writing a book. Torre has come across as a hypocrite to the fans in NY who have read and heard those comments and now see him doing the same thing he condemned.

I wish the threat of being blackballed if you share secrets was enough to keep people from doing it, but the money will always win the day. That's why confidentiality agreements are so common in every other business. If you're middle management or better in any decent-sized company in this country, you've probably signed one. I sure have.

And I agree 100% on why Torre is getting ripped; it's blatantly hypocritical AND a bad message to his current players. If I'm a Dodger, I think twice before taking an problem to the skipper.

But the fact that he wrote it illustrates why these agreements work...the threat of legal action for breaking the agreement needs to be bigger than the financial reward of doing so, or people will keep kissing and telling. Especially when they've worked for someone/something famous.

Can we hear from the Torre defenders? Its been almost sacrilegious to talk bad about him in NY for years. So lets see, he's a washed up hack who was an announcer before the Yanks pulled him out of the scrap heap. They shower him with the best players and all the resources he needs to win. Is that good enough? NOOOOOO the guy leaves and bashes the team that recreated him.

Good job Joe. Next time I see you on that stupid commercial surfing, lets pray for the shark to win that one.

Sincerely,

Non Yankee fan

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Originally posted 08:55 AM ET  01.29 by Field Marshall Sunny Day

Can we hear from the Torre defenders? Its been almost sacrilegious to talk bad about him in NY for years. So lets see, he's a washed up hack who was an announcer before the Yanks pulled him out of the scrap heap. They shower him with the best players and all the resources he needs to win. Is that good enough? NOOOOOO the guy leaves and bashes the team that recreated him. Good job Joe. Next time I see you on that stupid commercial surfing, lets pray for the shark to win that one.Sincerely,Non Yankee fan

They kinda left him hanging with that bogus contract offer, and they also left him out of the closing ceremonies for the Stadium. Turnabout is fair play. What, this book is gonna give up something that suddenly makes every team find the formula to win multiple championships? Feh.

Go phils

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Originally posted 09:00 AM ET  01.29 by Atro Steals Yer Base

They kinda left him hanging with that bogus contract offer, and they also left him out of the closing ceremonies for the Stadium. Turnabout is fair play. What, this book is gonna give up something that suddenly makes every team find the formula to win multiple championships? Feh.

Its not so much about the article above. Rather that he wrote this book. I've always thought he was an extremely overrated mgr with a fantastic front office who would do anything to win.

Lets just say he was less than stellar in his previous mgr stops. Lets not forget that without the Yankees, he isnt managing in LA, making commercials, or writing books. Its a bit disingenuous to go back and bite the hand that made him a wealthy wealthy man.

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Originally posted 09:04 AM ET  01.29 by Field Marshall Sunny Day

Its not so much about the article above. Rather that he wrote this book. I've always thought he was an extremely overrated mgr with a fantastic front office who would do anything to win. Lets just say he was less than stellar in his previous mgr stops. Lets not forget that without the Yankees, he isnt managing in LA, making commercials, or writing books. Its a bit disingenuous to go back and bite the hand that made him a wealthy wealthy man.

Gotta agree with that. I don't think he's sharing top secrets, but he is bringing bad press.

No company wants that, which is why most make you shut up when you leave. The Yanks handled his exit very poorly, and he's mad about it. But he should have taken his considerable money, the resume that got him his LA job, and kept quiet about the whole thing.

Instead, he's probably hurting himself more than he is the Yankees.

Maybe if they stop acting like a bunch of idiots, then no one would write bad things about them. Besides, what are they now, thin-skinned like A-Rod and Giambi? Sticks and stones...

Also, regarding this laughable phrase, "proprietary knowledge of our business model"...what a joke. I think everyone pretty much knows it already.

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Originally posted 09:40 AM ET  01.29 by Can it get any worse?

regarding this laughable phrase, "proprietary knowledge of our business model"...what a joke. I think everyone pretty much knows it already.

So why is it the O's or Nats haven't won more than one World Series between them in 25 years? Biding their time, are they?

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Originally posted 09:46 AM ET  01.29 by Atro Steals Yer Base

So why is it the O's or Nats haven't won more than one World Series between them in 25 years? Biding their time, are they?

Not enough money...when he says that everyone already knows it...it is because every does, but they can't neccessarily copy it.

Here is the business model: "We are the Yankees and our primary business goal is to the spend the most money in the offseason. Why, because we can and that will show the world who is king"

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Originally posted 09:46 AM ET  01.29 by Atro Steals Yer Base

So why is it the O's or Nats haven't won more than one World Series between them in 25 years? Biding their time, are they?

Well the Nats and O's are not baseball teams so much as they are cash cows for their owners. They know the Yankee business model leads to them receiving revenue sharing checks every year and that is great for their bottom line. Just look how well the Marlins are doing. Sure their record isn't so great but their isn't any red ink in their balance sheets.

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Originally posted 09:57 AM ET  01.29 by 2008 WFC

Not enough money...when he says that everyone already knows it...it is because every does, but they can't neccessarily copy it. Here is the business model: "We are the Yankees and our primary business goal is to the spend the most money in the offseason. Why, because we can and that will show the world who is king"

The Yanks go on one spending spree in the last 5 years and everyone gets their panties in a bunch. They didn't sign anyone from 2005-2008 and they got flak from the media and other fans. They shift gears and spend some money and they still are getting criticism. Just seems they can't win and some people will always find a reason to complain.

That's because they are hoping the whole Derek Jeter/Jorge Posada shower love scene story never gets out...

The Yankees didn't sign anyone from 2005 to 2008? I guess Johnny Damon played for the Red Sox all those years. Ignorant remarks like that is why we non-Yankees fans find you Yankees fans so moronically despicable. It's honestly not the players we hate (in most instances, ARod and Jeter are both easily detestable), it's the fans and their utter lack of knowledge about their team other than the word "rings", of which there is an ongoing 8 year drought, in case you forget.