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Hate to see what Texans will do to the brain trust that runs Leach out of town. No big time coach is going down there to replace him.

If you give someone an ultimatum, you better be prepared for the worst. Leach will not sign accept the offer so "now what"?

It doesn't appear that TT Univ officials have thought this one through. Let Leach get away and TT goes back to the 2nd Tier and the President and Athletic Director will be shown the door.

Someone needs to get a grip on reality.

Yeah, let's try to screw the guy who made TT into a serious national contender.... real smart!

Strategically speaking Leach has called check mate. Leach is in a no lose situation and has backed Myers/TTech into a corner with the only way out is for Myers & TTU to endure sure public humiliation and failure. Leach will either get his way at Tech or will make more money at an equal or superior program in a major conference very soon. Myers will capitulate or watch Leach leave and risk a tar and feathering and termination. Myers demonstrated that he is not the sharpest knife in the drwaer and is subject to long bouts of hubris laiden incompentence with disastrous consequences.

Regardless of who's right/wrong with this negotiation, what peaves me is when coaches make comments like Leach's "we're not going to agree...". Who's "we're? Is he trying to say that he's only partly responsible from his end for not getting the deal done? Look, its your contract. If you're not happy with it, say "YOU'RE" not happing with it. Who cares what the person working for you is happy with it? It sounds like he's trying to deflect blame. Not manly.
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Originally posted 10:43 AM ET  02.10 by The COLONEL

If you give someone an ultimatum, you better be prepared for the worst. Leach will not sign accept the offer so "now what"?It doesn't appear that TT Univ officials have thought this one through. Let Leach get away and TT goes back to the 2nd Tier and the President and Athletic Director will be shown the door. Someone needs to get a grip on reality.

So what haapens when the Feb. 17th deadline passes you ask? Well if the deadline passes Gerald Myers and those old farts in the power tower at TTU that support him continue to maintain the public stupidity personas. In a sense they have nothing to lose since they have all shown the are equally worthless and utterly incompetent small time players. Maybe they can see the light before the dust settles on this one, but do not hold your breath.

I for one, can side with TT University. Like all schools, AD's and school honchos are right in their desire to have coaching contracts be binding. Whatever happened to the days when a coach would sign a contract, keep his word, and stay at his school for his committed time? Nowadays, coaches hop from school to school at the drop of the hat. It doesn't help the school, the players or the fans to always be on edge not knowing how long "their guy" will be there. And 9 times out of 10, when the head coach leaves, he takes a chunk of assistants with him. Forget a playoff system- let's clean up this allowed merry-go-round in coaching first. It's the worst part of college football and it stinks.
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Originally posted 11:53 AM ET  02.10 by HuskerTx

I for one, can side with TT University. Like all schools, AD's and school honchos are right in their desire to have coaching contracts be binding. Whatever happened to the days when a coach would sign a contract, keep his word, and stay at his school for his committed time? Nowadays, coaches hop from school to school at the drop of the hat. It doesn't help the school, the players or the fans to always be on edge not knowing how long "their guy" will be there. And 9 times out of 10, when the head coach leaves, he takes a chunk of assistants with him. Forget a playoff system- let's clean up this allowed merry-go-round in coaching first. It's the worst part of college football and it stinks..

I agree that old times were nice when the likes of Osborne was loyal to Nebraska and Switzer was loyal to OU, etc... However, those days are forever gone. What Leach is asking for is fair in today's environment, it is what the market provides, it is what is in his current contract and it is what was in other TT proposals before Gerald Myers locked up. TTU/Myers need to understand Leach is in the position of power. Times have changed and those that fail to adapt will soon have maggots crawling through their eye sockets after being devoured by failure.

I don???t have a dog in this hunt, but I fully support Leach's position (at least the way I understand the issues). I thought it was ludicrous the way BC fired their coach just for checking out options re: his future. Employers should do just the opposite. They should encourage employees to educate themselves about their options and then participate in their career decisions during reviews etc.???much like good head coaches work with underclassmen to assess whether they should go pro early, or not. This creates a much stronger bond and commitment to goals than any restrictive contract language could ever achieve. Plus, handled this way, the employer is creating an attractive culture for top talent. What hot, up and coming coach will ever want to work for BC? Tech may be creating a similar fate. Too bad.


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QUOTE(#7):

Originally posted 11:53 AM ET  02.10 by HuskerTx

I for one, can side with TT University. Like all schools, AD's and school honchos are right in their desire to have coaching contracts be binding. Whatever happened to the days when a coach would sign a contract, keep his word, and stay at his school for his committed time? Nowadays, coaches hop from school to school at the drop of the hat. It doesn't help the school, the players or the fans to always be on edge not knowing how long "their guy" will be there. And 9 times out of 10, when the head coach leaves, he takes a chunk of assistants with him. Forget a playoff system- let's clean up this allowed merry-go-round in coaching first. It's the worst part of college football and it stinks..

My friend you are mistaken. A university can fire a coach for whatever so coaches need some protection. I do agree that a coach should honor his contract w/out crazy clauses. The exist little to no loyality on both sides of the ball. When a head coach is fired the schools don't retain his assistants.

Leach is a good Coach and his "we" is his agent. John Q. Public never heard of TT until Leach showed up. Let's face it, TT will almost never be on the same plain as OKLA, TEXAS, or USC. Meyer, act like you got some sense, take your pide out of it and give Coach Leach a fair contract!

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Originally posted 11:53 AM ET  02.10 by HuskerTx

I for one, can side with TT University. Like all schools, AD's and school honchos are right in their desire to have coaching contracts be binding. Whatever happened to the days when a coach would sign a contract, keep his word, and stay at his school for his committed time? Nowadays, coaches hop from school to school at the drop of the hat. It doesn't help the school, the players or the fans to always be on edge not knowing how long "their guy" will be there. And 9 times out of 10, when the head coach leaves, he takes a chunk of assistants with him. Forget a playoff system- let's clean up this allowed merry-go-round in coaching first. It's the worst part of college football and it stinks..

Both sides need protection in the deal. Every coach has a price at which he'll quit his dream job at his alma mater to coach someplace else, and every school has a booster who can get a man fired in a second. It sucks, but it's the nature of the beast. The buyouts are probably the best way to ensure that coaches and ADs don't run into the street without checking for traffic first.

If they lose Leach, being a second tier program will be a stretch. How they could even consider letting him go somewhere else after what he's done there AND how he's expressed his desire to stay....... It's just mind bottleing

dlbtx7 How can you be raised a Sooner, become aggie, and finish a Longhorn without massive personal issues? Thats like Nancy Reagan giving Gorbachov a hummer while Chairman Mao goes at her from behind.

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Originally posted 12:01 PM ET  02.10 by Tbrent

I agree that old times were nice when the likes of Osborne was loyal to Nebraska and Switzer was loyal to OU, etc...

The only thing that stopped Tom Osborne from taking the Colorado job in 1978, even though he acknowledged it was a better business decision and the program had a lot of "potential", was his discomfort with the idea of coaching against the kids he recruited to play at Nebraska. And the only reason he had the opportunity to make that decision in the first place was because Nebraska didn't fire him after the 1976 season.

The relationship between the school and the coach was based on loyalty as much as it was on the lack of a good, solid reason for each party to go their separate ways.

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Originally posted 10:43 AM ET  02.10 by The COLONEL

If you give someone an ultimatum, you better be prepared for the worst. Leach will not sign accept the offer so "now what"?It doesn't appear that TT Univ officials have thought this one through. Let Leach get away and TT goes back to the 2nd Tier and the President and Athletic Director will be shown the door. Someone needs to get a grip on reality.

That's the bottom line. TT is lucky to have Leach. After last season look for TT to be in the national spotlight for a while with good recruiting and a number of ten win seasons ala Colorado in the nineties under McCartney and KState under Snyder. When programs get momentum under a "hot" coach they usually keep it for a while. TT would be stupid to squander this opportunity. Lose Leach and the program will stumble and most likely fall sooner than later (ala Colorado and KState.) Coaches like Leach are special and rare. I wish we had one at Colorado. those nineties sure were fun for Buffs fans. Enjoy it while it lasts TT.

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Originally posted 05:07 PM ET  02.10 by evslin

The only thing that stopped Tom Osborne from taking the Colorado job in 1978, even though he acknowledged it was a better business decision and the program had a lot of "potential", was his discomfort with the idea of coaching against the kids he recruited to play at Nebraska. And the only reason he had the opportunity to make that decision in the first place was because Nebraska didn't fire him after the 1976 season.The relationship between the school and the coach was based on loyalty as much as it was on the lack of a good, solid reason for each party to go their separate ways.

I wished things would not have changed, but they did on once they did there is no going back.

Like Joe Torre & the Yankees Leach has been offered an insulting contract in the hope that he either walks away or gets in line with the administration. My thinking is that Myers realizes that Leach will never take TexTech to elite levels. That is why he declined to offer Leach a contract extension last season, and why Leach has been insulted this season. If Leach walks the administration can blame him instead of being the one to make a 'risky' decision. It all makes sense. Leach had his best season ever yet was embarrassed by OK, and the Big 12 was embarrassed by Ole Miss. Leach has no future at Tech.

Last minute clause additions will kill any deal .. it's a sign of not bargaining in good faith. They're gonna lose Mike Leach ... I'm amazed that Bob Knight actually coached there (maybe he saw the writing on the wall when he walked?) unde this TTU administration.

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Originally posted 07:32 PM ET  02.10 by CharMit

Like Joe Torre & the Yankees Leach has been offered an insulting contract in the hope that he either walks away or gets in line with the administration. My thinking is that Myers realizes that Leach will never take TexTech to elite levels. That is why he declined to offer Leach a contract extension last season, and why Leach has been insulted this season. If Leach walks the administration can blame him instead of being the one to make a 'risky' decision. It all makes sense. Leach had his best season ever yet was embarrassed by OK, and the Big 12 was embarrassed by Ole Miss. Leach has no future at Tech.

If you are correct should TTech fans trusts Myers' acumen? I say no. The risk reward does not favor this human persimmon. What next Spike ****' son?

Texas Tech is an odd looking bunch and was a freak show last year--Beat Texas on a Fluke play--and at best can only manage a win over UT about every 6-7 years. The Raiders put up incredible numbers but when the wheels came off the looney wagon they were gone for good. They even invented a silly new fight slogan "GUNS UP" that was quickly retired after being humiliated in Norman. As much as I hate the Sooners---im glad TT didnt represent the Big 12 ( Not that OU Deserved to ). I`m not sure if Leach would even fit in anywhere else---Tennesee ( the other UT ) passed up on Leach and hired an even bigger CooKoo in Kiffin.