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Did slow combine times hurt Buckeyes?

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Neither Malcolm Jenkins, Beanie Wells nor James Laurinaitis ran as fast at the NFL Combine as they would have liked. But a quick spin through some post-combine mock drafts has their 40 times not affecting them all that much, it seems.

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February 26, 2009  09:49 AM ET

Didn't Emmitt Smith run a 4.7? He had an ok career, right? Speed certainly helps but it isn't everything in the NFL.

February 26, 2009  09:52 AM ET

Wow this is a useless article

February 26, 2009  10:22 AM ET

I got blistered on T&R for saying Beanie had average speed back a few months ago. To all of you out there that had to take blood pressure medicine to keep from blowing a gasket when I said it - BITE ME!

Avg speed - live with it!

February 26, 2009  10:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Wow this is a useless article

Ditto

February 26, 2009  10:43 AM ET

all you need is 4.5-4.7 speed anyway - plus good explosion and elusiveness...those are what really count...leave the pure 40 speed to the WRs

February 26, 2009  11:12 AM ET

Perhaps they have soft grass at the combines this year. Everyone has been a little slower. Even Percy Harvin with a broken foot couldn't hit his numbers.

February 26, 2009  11:13 AM ET

Speed is not everything, especially at the combine. But Wells cannot stay healthy to be a good NFL back.

February 26, 2009  11:31 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Speed is not everything, especially at the combine. But Wells cannot stay healthy to be a good NFL back.

Exactly. Wells has plenty of football speed and has displayed it for several years. It's the injuries that will drop his stock.

February 26, 2009  12:44 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I got blistered on T&R for saying Beanie had average speed back a few months ago. To all of you out there that had to take blood pressure medicine to keep from blowing a gasket when I said it - BITE ME!Avg speed - live with it!

How many opportunities do running backs have to flash their 40 speed in a game in the pros? I'll take Beanie blasting through the line over some guy trying to dance his way to the line of scrimmage.
I think you got blistered because you inferred Beanie was a mediocre talent because he only had "average" speed.

February 26, 2009  12:58 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I got blistered on T&R for saying Beanie had average speed back a few months ago. To all of you out there that had to take blood pressure medicine to keep from blowing a gasket when I said it - BITE ME!Avg speed - live with it!

You seem to have a bit of a memory problem there GB but thanks for recalling it. Let me refresh your memory with your quotes from the November story.

1) Bet he doesn't run the 40 at the combine and comes up with a lame excuse.
(Wrong on that account)

2) Beanie Wells will be picked behind - Moreno (UGA), Scott (LSU), and some other RB that runs better than the 4.8 40 he is going to run in the combine (if he runs).
(Definitely wrong on the 40 time, in fact Wells 4.59 time was slightly better than Moreno's time)

3) Good power runner, marginal speed, no hands and no evidence of blocking ability (not necessarily his fault). Late second, early third rounder at best.
(Marginal speed is quite different than the average speed you claim to have stated and from every indication of the mock drafts you will be way off on the late 2nd, early third prediction)

So you made three predictions, two of them flat out wrong and the other (2nd/3rd rounder) will more than likely shown to be wrong. The only thing worse than a fool is a liar. Next time you come back stating you claimed something to be so, try and remember to go back and check your sources. Now BITE ME!

February 26, 2009  01:20 PM ET

The only ALL TIME GREAT Big 10 RB I can recall has been Eddie George. All others have been mediocre to bust material (except maybe Robert Smith). I doubt George ran a blistering 40 and he did fine. I do question Wells injuries but I'm no scout.

He's obvioulsy shown flashes of greatness and must grade out pretty well or he wouldn't be considered one of the best backs in the draft. Question is, is he another Eddie George or Chris Perry? (Sorry to compare rivals but thats the first name that popped into my head)

February 26, 2009  02:13 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Exactly. Wells has plenty of football speed and has displayed it for several years. It's the injuries that will drop his stock.

That coupled with his upright running style do no work well in the NFL.

February 26, 2009  02:15 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

You seem to have a bit of a memory problem there GB but thanks for recalling it. Let me refresh your memory with your quotes from the November story.1) Bet he doesn't run the 40 at the combine and comes up with a lame excuse. (Wrong on that account)2) Beanie Wells will be picked behind - Moreno (UGA), Scott (LSU), and some other RB that runs better than the 4.8 40 he is going to run in the combine (if he runs).(Definitely wrong on the 40 time, in fact Wells 4.59 time was slightly better than Moreno's time) 3) Good power runner, marginal speed, no hands and no evidence of blocking ability (not necessarily his fault). Late second, early third rounder at best. (Marginal speed is quite different than the average speed you claim to have stated and from every indication of the mock drafts you will be way off on the late 2nd, early third prediction)So you made three predictions, two of them flat out wrong and the other (2nd/3rd rounder) will more than likely shown to be wrong. The only thing worse than a fool is a liar. Next time you come back stating you claimed something to be so, try and remember to go back and check your sources. Now BITE ME!

1. He did run and got better than a 4.8, got me on that one.
2. He WILL get picked behind Moreno and I still bet he will be, at best, the 3rd RB picked. What round that falls? Who knows, perhaps I miss the round, but make my point.
3. He is STILL a good power runner, PROVEN to have marginal speed, STILL has no hands, STILL has no blocking ability.

The point of my response is that YOU and other Big 10 sloths went ape-**** when I said he had marginal speed - giving me such classic responses as his out-running the slowest Safety LSU had in OSU's woodshed loss.

His speed is marginal, average, nothing to get excited about - however you want to put it. I don't have to go back and check my sources, I am the source. I know what I said, but it's nice to know you keep track.

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February 26, 2009  03:14 PM ET

Man I hate to agree with a gator, but this time, I must. MOST of the OSU fans on this site went nuts everytime ANYONE implied that Beanie Wells was not the best back in the country. Turns out, he WASN'T the best back in the nation.

In fact, I'll do you one better than GatorBaitor. You can't count on Beanie when it's crunch time, because Beanie Wells is SOFT. I shall now await the onslaught from OSU fans.

February 26, 2009  03:49 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Turns out, he WASN'T the best back in the nation.

Beanie Wells wasn't even the best back in his conference, that honor went to Shonn Greene.

February 26, 2009  06:15 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Beanie Wells wasn't even the best back in his conference, that honor went to Shonn Greene.

I suggested that shortly after the Outback Bowl, and as usual, OSU fans ridiculed me and told me how stupid I was. I still stand by my statement.

February 26, 2009  08:34 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Beanie Wells wasn't even the best back in his conference, that honor went to Shonn Greene.

Nope...FLat wrong. More Yardage does not = better back. Shonn Greene was his teams only option. Ohio State toward the end started cutting Pryor loose.

February 27, 2009  09:24 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Wow this is a useless article

Ha ha ha ha ha. T&R is off the wall sometimes.

February 27, 2009  03:50 PM ET

Who thinks the SEC's national championships mean anything against Ohio St. twice and the 2nd best team in the Big-12 TWICE.. I mean do they have a special treatment deal to protect them against teams that don't suck?

 
February 27, 2009  03:52 PM ET

I guess they don't have special treatement because the SEC went 0-2 vs. the Mountain West last season and Nick Saban got schooled by the Utah Utes in his own backyard in the Sugar Bowl.

But that would beg the question-- why do people think the SEC is any good then, they never seem to prove it on the field against the Pac-10 or Big East or even Mountain West. Must be media bias.

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