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The program has been a disgrace under Roberts-
SUPPOSEDLY he has a couple of decent recruits coming in
and I'd give him next year.....
but if he doesn't AT LEAST gett them into the NCAA tourney
next march- he should ABSOLUTELY be let go.....
& St Johns should bring in a big NAME guy. There's no reason
in this day & age with one and done kids that the program can't
be turned back around quickly

St. John's is one of those programs that should NEVER lose to anyone by 29 points.

Only one thing is going to save his job and that would be the committment of Lance Stephenson. His staff has gone after the kid hard and it's been a long time since the top City prospect has even considered St. Johns. Lance's committment is supposed to be announced on March 21. If Lance doesn't pick the Johnnies then I expect Norm to be fired on March 22.

JGB: The problem with your statement is that Rev. Fr. Donald Harrington isn't going to go after a big name. You have to pay a big name. The school isn't going to open up the coiffers for that. The smart bet here would be that St. Johns does something similar to what Providence did and go after the hot mid-major coach. Providence hit a homerun by taking Keno Davis from Drake and that's what St. Johns needs to do. I would go after the coach from Siena (Fran McCaffery), personally. It's an upstate New York school that has had some success the past 2 seasons.

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Originally posted 12:15 PM ET  03.13 by J. HOVA: PRIMETIME

Only one thing is going to save his job and that would be the committment of Lance Stephenson. His staff has gone after the kid hard and it's been a long time since the top City prospect has even considered St. Johns. Lance's committment is supposed to be announced on March 21. If Lance doesn't pick the Johnnies then I expect Norm to be fired on March 22.JGB: The problem with your statement is that Rev. Fr. Donald Harrington isn't going to go after a big name. You have to pay a big name. The school isn't going to open up the coiffers for that. The smart bet here would be that St. Johns does something similar to what Providence did and go after the hot mid-major coach. Providence hit a homerun by taking Keno Davis from Drake and that's what St. Johns needs to do. I would go after the coach from Siena (Fran McCaffery), personally. It's an upstate New York school that has had some success the past 2 seasons.

but Norm was that guy-
had a great rep- ESPECIALLY from the recruiting front.....
- Agree with the $$$ issues with the AD-
but I just don't see why another mid-tier guy would be any
different than anyone else of that ilk ?

Norm wasn't that guy. Norm was a big recruiter from Kansas and Illinois under Bill Self. He had no coaching record whatsoever before he got to St. Johns. He basically made his name from recruiting Russell Robinson to KU from Rice High School.

I can't compare Norm to an established coach from anywhere else.

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Originally posted 12:23 PM ET  03.13 by J. HOVA: PRIMETIME

Norm wasn't that guy. Norm was a big recruiter from Kansas and Illinois under Bill Self. He had no coaching record whatsoever before he got to St. Johns. He basically made his name from recruiting Russell Robinson to KU from Rice High School.I can't compare Norm to an established coach from anywhere else.

I hear ya-
It's just gets pretty damn frustrating when other big east
schools like Pitt & WV are getting all of the NYC kids.....
that we should be able to keep -

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Originally posted 01:27 PM ET  03.13 by jgb

I hear ya-It's just gets pretty damn frustrating when other big east schools like Pitt & WV are getting all of the NYC kids.....that we should be able to keep -

I know. I get pissed when I see Levance Fields with Pitt. Brooklyn kid should have stayed home.

So you're saying Levance is nice?

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Originally posted 06:34 PM ET  03.13 by Big Puke in the hizzouse!

So you're saying Levance is nice?

hes alot better than everyone on the st johns roster except AM Jr.

its sad to see whats happened to st johns, i hope they can turn it around soon.

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Originally posted 11:24 PM ET  03.13 by KID DYNAMITE

hes alot better than everyone on the st johns roster except AM Jr.its sad to see whats happened to st johns, i hope they can turn it around soon.

Took the words out of my mouth. Thanks.

I am pinning my hopes on Lance committing. We need this kid. I said it: WE!

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Originally posted 06:34 PM ET  03.13 by Big Puke in the hizzouse!

So you're saying Levance is nice?

I like his game, but there are so many other New York City kids that leave town with no consideration of St. Johns. For example Virginia freshman Sylven Landesberg played his high school ball in the same area of St. Johns and didn't even give the Johnnies a look. Man, imagine how much better we could have been with a 6'5" slasher like Landesberg in that lineup.

It's going to take a new coach with NYC roots (born here, raised here, played here, coached here...whatever) to bring this thing back.

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Originally posted 12:29 PM ET  03.14 by J. HOVA: PRIMETIME

there are so many other New York City kids that leave town with no consideration of St. Johns

exactly-
point is iff a kid wants to leave NYC for UNC, kansas, duke, etc
TOP tier programs- I can live with it.......
it's when they go to the 'lesser' schools, which kills me

Isn't St Johns one of the colleges that has no seperate campus housing for students? Years ago, they would pay athletes a stipend for housing and they could keep what they didn't use for a place to live, they could keep. Double or triple up or live at home and that translated into a lot of pocket money. I read that when St Johns ended that policy, their recruiting went down the tubes also.

With the thread finally withering, can someone please explain the tie to me? Is the team playing at the Barbershop Open?

By the way - Sylven Landesberg's final 2 college choices were St. John's and Virginia.

Sorry about the decline of St. John's, but this is program that has been in decline for a long time. Simply put, St. John's can't compete for blue-chippers on a year in year out basis because it doesn't have anything to offer that a high school player can't get more and better somewhere else.
St. John would be better served if they gave up and went the way of NYU, CCNY, LIU, Fordham, Manhatten, etc.
Move on and concentrate on giving a good education to it's students.

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Originally posted 09:43 PM ET  03.14 by Slick Ric is DaMoFo

I read that when St Johns ended that policy, their recruiting went down the tubes also

I heard that as well-
notsure though if it was st johns that ended it or all schools