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Stop taking the idiot pills. Penn State beat a very good OSU team that you unfortunately didn't see (obviously) playing like wild men on defense...it was a great game. You're buying into the outdated "OSU and Big 10 sucks" kool aid, only you're completely unoriginal and about a year too late. Penn State CAN play in the big game, and Big 10 teams do just fine in bowl games (excluding, unfortunately, in the past when OSU has played SEC teams). You need to drink less kool-aid and pay attention to more than just the past year. BTW, OSU has done just fine playing SEC teams in regular season.
As for Penn State/USC, people like Sandy are going to be very surprised when they see Penn State play. I know some of them, and frankly they don't get intimidated at ALL by USC, or SEC, or Big 12. They play ball...hard. The ONE thing I wish is that we could, just once, just one time, play USC on a field OTHER than at home for them. If you don't think the home field advantage/familiarity with the weather, field, etc. is a big deal, you're crazy. And YES, I know teams have to get up and be able to play away. But when you USC boys constantly harp on how good they are based on Rose Bowl performance, it has less credibility than if you did it in Glendale, Miami or Texas.
By the way, Sandy and you other guys who are so sure Penn State is going to get killed...I'd DEFINITELY take a lot of your money--money you absolutely can't afford to lose--and bet it against Penn State. Sounds like easy money, and you should put your money where your (very large) mouth is. Me? I'm going to look forward to one hell of a game.
As stated several times above, Joe's in the booth because of his injury. And I doubt he's a figurehead although hell, some T&R bloggers think he is so he MUST be (sarcasm). I think the folks there at PSU know whether he's appropriately involved or not, and if you listen to his press conferences he's still plenty engaged and engaging.
And Gatorsmack, yeah, Florida looks good this year, but I wouldn't get too cocky. It hasn't been that long ago that UF was tossed around by Miami and FSU, and if you don't believe things are cyclical, look past the last 5 years and look for patterns. But I'd agree that Florida is likely at a peak right now...although there's one bad thing about being at a peak...
As for Tebow, I like him a ton as a person and he seems like a really good guy (and of course he's a heck of a player) but unless things change drastically I think the only way he gets the Heisman this year is a popularity/sentimentality vote. There are several other QBs in the B12 in particular with more impressive stats, and likely one of THEM will be leading their team to the NC game as well (assuming of course that you win the SEC).
Good luck to you and your teams...and pre-Thanksgiving I'm going to say one of the things I'm thankful for is that it's been a really interesting and compelling season!
Unfortunately, compelling, logical comments made by a very knowledgeable person who saw the game in PERSON will never be seen as persuasive by some on these blogs...don't even bother trying to reason with them. And anyone saying Penn State is a "fraud" is laughably and sadly (yes, both at the same time) ignorant...but that's been shown MANY times over the past several months. Don't even bother responding to these kind of "posts"--it's a complete waste of time.
As for Penn State, well....we'll get an indication as to what THAT game will look like this weekend. If we can get the offense going, great. If not, I think PSU will take us. But I'll be there (19C by the way, pretty happy about that), cheering all the way!
Take care all. And of course Go Bucks!
Take care all.
Good luck to everybody and their teams tomorrow.
This isn't about political correctness, it's about class. There's a difference. I hate political correctness as well, AND I recognize that people are going to shout out cuss words at football games, but this is more or less institutionalized now and like it or not this language is considered obscene, and THAT reflects negatively on the institution. As an earlier poster noted, this is NOT only the current students' program but also the faculty, staff, alumni and all other fans. And where do you stop? There's a fine line between this and other behaviors that are worse, or would THOSE also be considered under the "well, that's what you get at an NCAA football game" category?
In any case, the easiest and best solution will be (if it doesn't stop) for the university to stop selling student tickets at a discount until it gets better. They have EVERY right to do that and I hope they do, because if there's anything I'M sick of, it's idiots that think they can do whatever they want with no repercussions.
In any case, this seems like just simple trash talking...the way I read it is "take Tebow out of the equation" vs. "permanently hurt the man". You see it out of very conference.
While my 14-year old son certainly can understand that this kind of chant is the result of a) alcohol and/or b) idiocy and lack of class, my biggest concern is that we're on a slippery slope with this. Pretty soon this kind of chant "isn't so bad" and is seen all over the place, and something else provocative is in its place. We're better than that and the game deserves better.
I'll contrast this with what you see at a BYU home game...an invocation/benediction before the game starts that basically says "let these young men play with courage, sportsmanship and talent", etc. While I know we have separation of church and state, I think you'd be amazed at how much of a difference that simple act makes to how the game "feels"...and while there's every bit the hard hitting you'll see as with KU or any other team, it also keeps sportsmanship and the REASONS we play the game at the heart of the game. I'll take the BYU vs. KU approach any time.
That said, there needs to be accountability for atrocious behavior, particularly if there were warnings before. What makes the OSU band special to OSU fans (besides tradition) is its class.
I have nothing but respect for Coach Tressel, but I do believe we need to do something different if we're going to realize the full potential of the talent that we have.
And as noted about a grillion times already, the whole rankings thing is pretty inaccurate, between media darlings (both individual teams and conferences) and a lack of substantive interconference play, the only real way to tell who's better than who is bowl time. The SEC is great this year and yeah, they're knocking themselves around...just like everybody said about the Big 10 in the late 90s. We'll see how things shake out around bowl time, but OSU will be MUCH improved by that time, and I hope we get paired up with a really good SEC team. This year is the year to break the curse and get the monkey off our back (something other B10 teams haven't had a problem with).
Also, what do you guys think about Pryor's arm? So far he looks plenty strong to me.
And, like some others have noted, I really think Tressel needs to be more nonconventional and unpredictable, and do a better job of in-game adjustments. I don't think it's just me that is failing to see these, not only in the USC game but the LSU game as well. Do that, and get a coach specifically for the offense, and get Beanie healthy...then watch out.
Good luck to all and to your teams!