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Posted Tuesday June 04, 2013, About: Why Hibbert didn't shake hands
Read some of the stuff that bball journalists wrote about their profession at that time. In was a little circle of people in involved in professional basketball. In 1965, there were only teams in 9 cities (and most of the biggest cities were only just getting established teams for the first time). Total attendance in 1965 was less than 2 million. The first big tv contracts were just being signed. You didn't have the situation you have today, where tens of millions of people watch games every week and hundreds of millions of little boys around the world start practicing to play from the age of 5.
Posted Tuesday June 04, 2013, About: Why Hibbert didn't shake hands
You can disagree all you want...

But it's like saying that Jesse Owens would kill Usain Bolt in the 100-yard dash. Or that Jim Thorpe was a better athlete than Ashton Eaton.

Um, sorry, no they're not. It's quite easy to show that with numbers.

In team sports, you don't have the same numbers (even though you can clearly show that today's players are bigger, faster, stronger, and jump higher). If you had any, you'd see that today's players shoot better, pass better, play better defense, and have more developed bball IQ, on average.

That's always going to be true as long as a sport expands its reach and popularity. And there are WAY more people playing basketball now, and being very serious about it, than there were in the 1960s. Or even the 1980s.
Posted Tuesday June 04, 2013, About: Why Hibbert didn't shake hands
As far as "old-time teams" destroying today's youngters, here's the problem I have with that.

The pool of potential players is FAR bigger now. Not only the US twice as big as it was then, but tons of international countries are sending their best too. Usually, the cream of the crop out of 2 billion people is going to be better than the cream of the crop out of 200 million people.

The knowledge of the game is much deeper now. New moves have been invented over the years. New defensive and offensive schemes have been developed. Players start incorporating the moves of the greats at a much younger age, and learning off of everything before them.

Athleticism is far greater. Training, nutrition, etc. are far better than they were back then.

Basketball is WAY more popular. In the 1960s, it was just not that big a deal. Look at how few journalists covered any one game. Look at how little players got paid. Nowadays people care far more about it, work towards the career from an earlier age, dedicate far more energy to it, etc.

There were great players back in the day. But all else being equal, the greats of a big crop are going to beat the greats of a little crop. Big schools are going to give you a better starting 5 than little schools. And all else is not equal - every advantage favors today's players.
Posted Tuesday June 04, 2013, About: Why Hibbert didn't shake hands
That is a very logical evaluation of the situation.

Not sure if I believe the tilt theory, but at least you're not going out of your way to look for bad evidence.
Posted Tuesday June 04, 2013, About: Why Hibbert didn't shake hands
Honestly, I think that in the heat of the moment, these things are among the dumbest controversies ever.

I would shake hands. I wouldn't mind if someone else just walked to their bench instead.

At least once, when I was in high school, I shook several guys hands and then purposely walked past two guys and didn't extend my hand to them when they wanted to shake. That was immature, and a pro player doing that would be childish. But I don't have an issue as long as no one makes it personal.
Posted Tuesday June 04, 2013, About: Why Hibbert didn't shake hands
Which, until last night, was the same number that Lebron was in.
Posted Tuesday June 04, 2013, About: Why Hibbert didn't shake hands
Nothing wrong with stats, but "minutes played" is probably important in that context too, right?

Both players have a lot of important attributes that don't show up in stats...Ginobli might pull a little more of those, with the manner in which he draws fouls and also brings energy when the other stars are out. But Wade does create an entire new dynamic when he is aggressive too.
Posted Tuesday June 04, 2013, About: Why Hibbert didn't shake hands
Um, if Jordan always finished in 6 or less, then he wouldn't have a "game 7" scoring average...
Posted Tuesday June 04, 2013, About: Why Hibbert didn't shake hands
How many Game 7's has Kobe been in?

I remember the Finals against Boston, where he shot 6-24. And the one against the Suns in the 1st round where he was hot to start off but gave up and stopped playing in the 2nd half. There was also the WCF against the Kings...don't remember how he did then, but it was nothing extravagant.

So yeah, my guess is his Game 7 scoring average is pretty low.
Posted Monday June 03, 2013, About: Howard admits to seeing psychiatrist
Thanks Em Em Aye. I'm out.
Posted Monday June 03, 2013, About: Howard admits to seeing psychiatrist
So Finkelstein starts dumb stuff, clemtheslowson likes to troll, and lakersallday doesn't read well and gets a little snarky when it gets too obviously pointed out.

Am I off on any of those?

I'll keep all that in mind if I ever post here again.
Posted Monday June 03, 2013, About: Howard admits to seeing psychiatrist
Yet you are not only replying to me, but bringing me up in order to make comments about hockey that don't even relate to me.

Seems like you are doing quite a good job already of validating my existence. You're just having trouble validating yourself.
Posted Monday June 03, 2013, About: Howard admits to seeing psychiatrist
So it should be easy to quote 1 of them, right?
Posted Monday June 03, 2013, About: Howard admits to seeing psychiatrist
Nice to meet you too. Care to quote a single ignorant thing that I've said?
Posted Monday June 03, 2013, About: Howard admits to seeing psychiatrist
You can't prove a void. I haven't even been talking about Lebron.
Posted Monday June 03, 2013, About: Howard admits to seeing psychiatrist
I hope so.

First is was all about a guy saying that Bill Walton is only in the Hall of Fame because he's white.

And then it was about Lebron flopping, ref conspiracies, and Lakersallday's complete inability to read my posts.

Not the most productive use of time.
Posted Monday June 03, 2013, About: Howard admits to seeing psychiatrist
Okay, I read through all the pages like you asked, and I was able to find 0 quotes showing that I have a man crush on Lebron. So you are proven wrong.

You're welcome.
Posted Monday June 03, 2013, About: Howard admits to seeing psychiatrist
Wait, you're the one who claimed I had a man crush on Lebron, and your excuse for your inability to provide a single quote as evidence for that is...

"I'm not gonna do ur leg work 4 u. Since u read so well go back a few pages n have at it."

How is providing backing up YOUR claim supposed to me MY leg work?
Posted Monday June 03, 2013, About: Howard admits to seeing psychiatrist
Alter for...who?

I can promise you that I virtually never even read the comments on fannation, much less comment on them myself. I can also promise you that I'm not commenting under any other names.

I think this thread provides quite strong evidence for why I won't start commenting a lot either, under this or any other name. Seriously, are all the conversations this stupid?
Posted Monday June 03, 2013, About: Howard admits to seeing psychiatrist
I've been a member of sports sites. I occasionally comment on the message boards. I have a few dozen comments here and a couple thousand on ESPN, spread out over 7 years.

How the heck does that show that I'm the kind of person who comments 57,000 times in 3 years?
Posted Monday June 03, 2013, About: Howard admits to seeing psychiatrist
Earth to LakersAllDay: I'm not even a Heat fan.

Can you give 2 examples of comments I've made that show my "undying man crush on Lebron"? Seriously, if I have such a clear undying man crush, then I must have said at least a couple things that prove that, right?
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