Just_Mike

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Posted Wednesday September 19, 2007, About: Bengals auditioning linebackers
It might be a good pickup for the Bengals. Dhani Jones at least has a decent record with tackling, something the Bengals have not been good at over the last few years. He may be able to help on special teams as well.
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: Browns may start Quinn on Sunday
"I think if they put in Quinn they will get a higher attendance rating and more excitment."

Denis24 = Darth Kobe BS* | 09/12/07

Until he gets ripped apart by some 240lb defensive player that takes advantage of the horrible Brown's o-line. It is hard to get attendance ratings with a QB on the sideline with a season ending injury.

The Browns have a long track record of being QB killers, they need to build an offensive line first, and then work on the QB issue.

Frye might have sucked, but all those sacks were not his fault alone.
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
"They are not the first to use this tactic, and they will not be last. They are just being used as an example because the the Superbowl wins they have under their belts."

biggestpatsfan | 09/12/07

Would you say the same about players that were the first to get caught using the newest strength enhancing drugs? Hey, they were they are not the only ones doing this, just the first to get caught. Does that make it okay? Ummm.. nope.

"you newbs think the patriots are the only ones doing this kind of thing?"
sekhui | 09/12/07

Never said that. What makes someone who argues that the Pats should be penalized for a clear rule violation a "newb" just because they were the first ones to get caught? I grew up playing football, I have been watching football as a fan for over 20 years, that hardly makes me a "newb".

Considering the relative time line of the internet as opposed to most mediums, and the term "newb" you use, it makes me wonder how much of a "newb" you are. After all that is a term most common in the last 7 years or so and mostly used among teenagers and those in their early twenties. Many of us have been following football for a quarter of a century or more. So, who is the newb?
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
biggestpatsfan | 09/12/07

Your user name negates pretty much everything you have attempted to argue in this thread. Bias is an interesting thing, it allows one to circumvent the facts and rules in their own mind order to justify obvious flaws and in this case a clear violation of NFL rules.

Maybe the Pats will win it all this year, heaven knows they are loaded as a team and have a great chance. However, the fact that they seemingly violated NFL rules does not go away just because you are a fan of the Patriots.
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
"And it is quite a leap to say the PATS cheated against the Chargers."
BLUESILVER | 09/12/07

If you read my post correctly, I never said the Pats cheated against the Chargers. I simply brought to question a hypothetical situation whether they might of had someone in the stands during the Chargers' most refcent game, 2007, against the Bears, taping signals for future reference. One never knows. Also, I am not sure if it is a rule violation to have someone in the stands doing such things.

There is one thing that is clear in this entire argument. Having an employee video taping the opposing team's sideline and signal calling is a violation of NFL rule. If a team gets caught doing that, they are cheating.

Mike
freakinfootball.com
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: With Eli hurt, will Giants get Simms?
The point is still with Lorenzen being a lefty. This changes the entire offensive line and their blocking scheme. I'm not sure this is a shift many teams would like to make for a few weeks and then shift back a month from now. The o-line is critical to offensive success, having to flip flop coverage can't help the line out. A team needs continuity and in game experience with blocking schemes. I say bring in a right hander to fill in for Eli while he is gone.

Mike
freakinfootball.com
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
"And for once, it's not Moss's fault."

Gator Rican | 09/12/07

Unless he knew the defensive coverage before the plays started. HAHA, just kidding, Moss looked good in that game, and that long TD he blew past an entire team of defenders and caught the ball in triple coverage, so you can't blame stolen signals on that one.

Mike
freakinfootball.com
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
"...he probably does this to get under the Jets braintrust skin and it works"

ovanjye | 09/12/07

It is still a clear violation of NFL rules. If a team just violates the salary cap to get under other teams skin does that mean it should be excused. If a team clearly violates rules on placing players on the injury list to mess with another team's head does that make it right? No, there are rules in place for a reason, to maintain the integrity of the game. If a team breaks those rules, even just as a psychological tactic as you suggest, they should be penalized.

Breaking the rules = cheating, even if you think they broke the rules to get under someone's skin.

If you got caught doing 90 MPH in a 55 MPH zone and you told the officer that you had a different interpretation of the rules, or you were just doing it to mess with them, you would still have to pay the fine.

Mike
freakinfootball.com
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
"Bill B. is a good coach but a poor human being."
tee-dub | 09/12/07

This seems to be a problem in the NFL as a whole. There are a number of star players that have no class as well. Thank goodness Goddell is weeding them out one by one.

While I agree that Belichick is a good coach, he does have no class. He has forgotten, and or never been in touch with the aspect of good sportsmanship. Just look at the way he treated Mangini after the game last year, and the way he shrugged off Payton after the Colts beat them in the playoffs.

What happened to sportsmanship over the years? Their was a time when players and teams respected their opponents and opposing coaches no matter the outcome or odds. My grandfather was a football coach and while I was a kid he always told me to respect the game and my opponents no matter the outcome. Belichick seems to have forgotten that this is a game, and to earn long lasting respect, you have to give respect to the game as well.
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: Browns may start Quinn on Sunday
"I think the Brown's should wait on Quinn. Let Frye run the team until Week 5. And then in either Week 6 vs the Dolphins or in Week 8 vs the Rams, put in Quinn."

Mac: URLACHER!!!* | 09/12/0

Umm.. where have you been? Frye got traded the other day to Seattle. Maybe you mean Anderson?
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
A more interesting question here is, if the Pats had a guy on the sidelines taping their current opponent's signals, what is to say they didn't have a guy in the stands taping the current signals of their future opponents? For example, who knows if they had some guy in the stands video taping the signals of the Chargers during their game against Chicago? The technology is certainly available to do such a thing, and I don't think any NFL franchise would not be able to afford a ticket to put a spy in the right spot in the stands.

My guess is that all future Pat's opponents have changed their signals dramatically for just that reason. Give a radio to the defensive captain and this problem is solved anyway.

Mike
freakinfootball.com
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: Deion returns to Prime Time
LOL, Oxygen channel. Deion, are you really that hard up for cash? This is disappointing at best.

Mike
freakinfootball.com
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: With Eli hurt, will Giants get Simms?
The biggest problem I see with Lorenzen having to play a few games is that he is a south paw, a left hander. That means that the entire offensive line has to switch up their blocking scheme because his blind side is changed from the left to the right. If they can bring in a guy like Sims to cover for Eli then that would be a good thing.

If they stick with Lorenzen for a few games while Eli is out the o-line will adapt to a new left handed scheme, then have to switch back in a few weeks when Eli comes back.

Mike
freakinfootball.com
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: Browns may start Quinn on Sunday
The worst thing the Brown's have done this year is waffling on the QB issue. My gut tells me they should have named a starter and stuck with him for a few games at least. What does this say to the team as a whole? Does it say, "The coaching staff is not in touch with the team and its needs. We have no idea what is the best for the team. We don't even know who to put at QB as the leader of our team."

A team needs to know who their leader is on offense. The Browns have been horrible over the last several years making that decision. Pick someone and stick with them for the season. Give your team some direction and something to work with, man up and stand by your choice. Granted, things may go horribly in the first game, but playing the QB of the moment game can't bring a team togeather on offense.

Mike
freakinfootball.com
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
Just_Mike, the other coaches in the league don't interpret the rule the same.

STP43FAN | 09/12/07

I don't see other teams being caught with a tape of the opposing team's defensive signals. The rule and subsequent 2006 memo from NFL head of football operations seems pretty clear to me, "Video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

Put your fan status aside and look at the facts in the issue.
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
"He also mentioned something about his "interpretation of the rules" in his conversation with Goodell. Is it possible the rule was obscurely written or that the language allows for creative interpretation (i.e. did he find a loophole?)"

BLUESILVER | 09/12/07

How clear is this:
"1. Page 105 of the Game Operations manual says: "No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game." It later says: "All video shooting locations must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead."

2. And, a memo from Ray Anderson, NFL head of football operations, to head coaches and GMs on Sept. 6, 2006 said: "Video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent???s offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches??? booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

From NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d802456c2
Side story in the article.

I am no genius, but I can understand that rule and subsequent memo fairly easily. Don't film the opposing team's sidelines, coaches, or signals. If you are caught doing so, you are breaking a rule.
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
I hope that Belichick tries to steal the Cowboys defensive signs in a few weeks, because he would be utterly confused, much like our Head Coach seems to be........

Stybun | 09/12/07

That cracked me up. Not a jab at you, it was a funny comment.
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
June10porchjames_024

"If Belichick is not suspended for at 4 games then all the people defending Pacman and Chris Henry have a real f'n beef.
If this does not violate the conduct policy what in the hell does? Is this what the NFL want? you can cheat during a game and nothing happens, but if you get a DUI you are suspended."

terpsinatlanta | 09/12/07

Toss in that assistant coach for the Cowboys that got suspended for 5 games for using HGH. Please tell me how a coach using HGH will enhance the team's performance. None the less he broke the rules, he got suspended.

A loss of draft picks will only hurt the Pats next year. A few games with Belichick watching it on T.V. will make a statement and humiliate him, maybe knock down his ego a bit as well, and of course send a message to other coaches that might be using or consider using similar tactics.

Mike
freakinfootball.com
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
The point is, this isn't about a specific team and what they are doing. The point is, the Patriots got caught violating an NFL rule. From the NFL.com website with an article about this issue, you will see in the side text:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d802456c2&template=with-video& ;confirm=true

"1. Page 105 of the Game Operations manual says: "No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game." It later says: "All video shooting locations must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead."

2. And, a memo from Ray Anderson, NFL head of football operations, to head coaches and GMs on Sept. 6, 2006 said: "Video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent???s offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches??? booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

If found guilty of this violation, in my mind the team is cheating, even if the alleged activity didn't really help them. I truly feel that the Jets would have lost either way. However, this is about breaking NFL rules, not who would have won. There are penalties for breaking the salary cap as well. When a team does that, you could say, well the team they beat would have lost anyway. That is beside the point, rules are in place for a reason. Break the rules, pay the price.
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
"DId anyone see "Dr. Z's" power rankings? what a joke."

norcalsurfer777 | 09/12/07

Nope, I almost never read his articles. His style or reporting is just not my cup of tea.
Posted Wednesday September 12, 2007, About: NFL: Patriots cheated, penalties to come
Oh, and to the people that say signal stealing via film wouldn't really help, there is plenty of time to chart out signals if you have the film. Each play is photographed, so you start matching what happens on the field to the pictures and it wouldn't take long to put together a nice chart for the half time adjustments.

Also, if this sort of thing is going on, what is to say an offending team doesn't have someone in the stands filming the signals of their upcoming opponents? That would give them plenty of time to have a nice chart for next weeks game.

This could be easily solved by letting a defensive player have a radio.
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