Great topic and like 'em both but Bear got busted last (?) year for spending his nights in a hotel. He has since mended his ways. Leaning Left for now but they're not out of the woods yet.
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Just curious as to why you took it on then.
And as others said, your arguments weren't all that bad, especially your point about the women's rivalry being so lopsided. It was 13 in a row and at the point leading up to the '85 French Open, Martina had something like a 30-3 record going against Evert - just owned her. The '85 French helped turn that around a bit. Speaking of which, you hit on something without realizing it I think in that Martina did her best to avoid clay. But at the same time, Borg vs. Mac became very lopsided too. Borg lost the '81 Wimbeldon final and every other match he played against Mac after that I believe until he finally retired out of frustration a couple of years later at the premature age of 26. Mac tried to talk him out of it but Borg would not be swayed. So those points kind of negate each other.
I don't know about the ratings, intensity and media coverage going to your rivalry, especially the intensity. They're friends now but there was a healthy hatred going on between the two women, especially on Martina's part. All I do know is that the intensity and duration of that rivalry changed the face of women's tennis forever. A couple of months ago, ESPN debuted a documentary about the two called Unmatched. Excellent and you should check it out if you decide to develop more interest.
I was simply disagreeing with your point that the Borg-McEnroe rivalry has lost some if its importance. I honestly don't think it has but again my perspective, like yours, is from a different point in time. I agree there have been plenty of other great rivalries in men's tennis, Nadal and Federer among them but for my money, none has had the same cache as Borg and Johnny Mac. Whatever it was: Talent, contrasting personalities and public personae, playing style, a combination of all those, they captured the public's imagination like none other in men's tennis. I rank Federer / Nadal a close second. And I'm guessing you've heard Jimmy Connors's comments about those two being friends off court......I had to laugh........I think keeping your distance makes a rivalry more relevant.
As for your points about Evert-Navratilova and the other women players, I couldn't agree more. That's why these two rivalries make for such a good TD.
I don't think so. Not for those who really love tennis and its history. There was an aura to that rivalry and those two particular players that made it unique in the men's game. Not even Federer - Nadal had their yin and yan.
And did you happen to catch Borg joining McEnroe in the studio at this year's Wimbledon for a point by point breakdown of their famous 1980 4th set tie break? Classic stuff. I loved it when Mac asked Borg if his famous sideways stance helped disguise his serve. Borg wouldn't give him a direct answer. Maybe he just forgot.......
I figured it would be these two - almost hate to be able to admit it but I watched these rivlaries unfurl for myself - and was wondering who was gonna take who................Good openers and will wait til the tie break..........
Very cool, this TD is one of the best I've ever read. Fresh, interesting points in every round. From title alone I would vote Left but Right won me on argument. Will leave it at that so as not to make any possible influencing comments.....
And I'm curious, is a room cheaper at BB&T Stadium or Heinz Field? Not that I'm interested....... :)
Two years ago when we were playing the Rangers, I told Mrs. Seabird that we were two years away. I still believe that this is our year but I also believe that Yoda made the strongest closing argument. LGC argued more specifically against the Pens than he did for the Caps and I'm not sure I believe his statement that the Caps will address their D at the trade deadline. My only other comment is that neither side saw fit to give Malkin the time of day? I believe it was him and not Crosby who won the Conn Smythe.
Just curious as to why you took it on then.
And as others said, your arguments weren't all that bad, especially your point about the women's rivalry being so lopsided. It was 13 in a row and at the point leading up to the '85 French Open, Martina had something like a 30-3 record going against Evert - just owned her. The '85 French helped turn that around a bit. Speaking of which, you hit on something without realizing it I think in that Martina did her best to avoid clay.
But at the same time, Borg vs. Mac became very lopsided too. Borg lost the '81 Wimbeldon final and every other match he played against Mac after that I believe until he finally retired out of frustration a couple of years later at the premature age of 26. Mac tried to talk him out of it but Borg would not be swayed. So those points kind of negate each other.
I don't know about the ratings, intensity and media coverage going to your rivalry, especially the intensity. They're friends now but there was a healthy hatred going on between the two women, especially on Martina's part. All I do know is that the intensity and duration of that rivalry changed the face of women's tennis forever. A couple of months ago, ESPN debuted a documentary about the two called Unmatched. Excellent and you should check it out if you decide to develop more interest.
Voting left.
As for your points about Evert-Navratilova and the other women players, I couldn't agree more. That's why these two rivalries make for such a good TD.
And did you happen to catch Borg joining McEnroe in the studio at this year's Wimbledon for a point by point breakdown of their famous 1980 4th set tie break? Classic stuff. I loved it when Mac asked Borg if his famous sideways stance helped disguise his serve. Borg wouldn't give him a direct answer. Maybe he just forgot.......
And I'm curious, is a room cheaper at BB&T Stadium or Heinz Field? Not that I'm interested....... :)