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I came up with it on my own. Maybe I have too much idle time on my hands, but that's a different issue.
I led it off, and you ran with it and came up with something more edgy.
Cool !
However, where does Marbury fit in with this trade? Is it like musical chairs, with players from all three teams rotating to different places, and with Marbury being the "odd man out" ??
- JL
I would then order T-Mac to get examined by all FOUR of them. Two independent surgical opinions plus two independent therapist opinions can then be taken into consideration. If ANY of these four specialists find that T-Mac's knee condition is serious enough for surgery, and it's not advisable for him to play, then I would have the franchise pursue the matter. If surgery is not needed, then I would have T-Mac rest the knee as per the longest time suggested by any of the specialists. Only if ALL four agree that he can play through the injury would I let him do so.
In other words, I would make sure that the matter is taken care of thoroughly.
When Grant Hill was injured all those years, he did the same thing. He went to one specialist after another until the issues were resolved.
- JL
It would be cool to have the trade go down as one of those rare instances.
A third team would solve the issue. For example, after doing this trade, Sacramento can trade Marion to either the Lakers or Hornets for one of their younger players.
- JL
It's not often that you can trade for a solid veteran big man, and this opportunity will help them contend in the playoffs. Even if they have to give up a draft pick or another player in addition to Szczerbiak, it's worth doing.
The Cavs' window of opportunity is coming up in the next couple years, and they should make a move. They need to be waiting, able and ready to grab a trip to the Finals as soon as the Celtics start to fade. If they don't make this kind of move in the next couple years, then other teams like the Magic and Hawks will overtake them in terms of leading the Eastern Conference.
If the Cavs are not able to make this deal happen, then I hope that Brad Miller goes to another good team that needs a big man. I would like to see him in Miami playing with Wade and Beasley, or in Golden State, or in Phoenix where he can take over the center position and allow Shaq to retire, or play fewer minutes. I wouldn't be surprised if the Hornets try to take him as well.
- JL
Can you imagine your local illegal Mexican janitor going on strike and making these demands? It would be insane! :)
That's the danger in signing Marbury and then not using him. That's why what New York is doing is a bit risky as well.
- JL
- JL
Baron Davis would probably fit in with D'Antoni's free-flowing style, and may enjoy the limelight of New York as well. On the other side, Marbury would have to prove himself again with a new team that happens to be average in the league.
It would actually be interesting for this trade to go through. At least it solves the Marbury deadlock and allows the parties involved to move forward with their lives.
- JL
#1. The Celtics DO need him, or else their name would never be mentioned in the same sentence as Marbury. It so happens that the Celts have an open roster spot that they need to fill. They originally wanted to get a big man like PJ Brown or Mutumbo, but since they're not available, the next logical choice is to bolster the guard positions. Marbury can play both backcourt positions.
#2. That's a cliche that you've heard from the posters on T&R. Do you think the Celtics are unaware of Marbury's problems? They do this stuff for a living, as part of big business, you know. Don't you know that scouts from the Celtics have already had conversations with Marbury, and they've addressed some of these issues? Even if it's illegal for a franchise to contact other players for trades, it does happen on an unofficial basis.
Even if Marbury ends up being a cancer for the Celtics, they can release him at any point, since they would be taking him on just for the rest of the season. It's a "trial run", so to speak.
#3. Let's not go there. Marbury has definitely had problems, and whether it's mental illness or not, we don't know.
- JL
I was not addressing whether having the Suns moving to New York and playing as Knicks has any benefits, or will lead to them playing defense.
I was only addressing the possibility of the Suns players migrating to the Knicks.
In the end, it has to do with D'Antoni. It was his plan to try to lure as many of his former players to New York as possible. Whether he intends to add defense to his strategy is another matter.
- JL
The Knicks and Raptors are neither at the top of the East right now, nor are they improving fast enough to become contenders in 2010. Right now, the top teams in the East are the Celts and Pistons (and maybe the Cavs). The Hawks and Magic are making big strides and will be ahead of the Knicks and Raptors by 2010.
- JL
However, as time goes by, it will be less possible to do so.
If D'Antoni succeeds in landing Shawn Marion by next Summer, then there's a distinct possibility that other former Suns will consider joining the Knicks.
If D'Antoni can succeed in landing Amare, then that will open the floodgates for other Suns to come to New York.
However, if the Knicks cannot do either of these two things, then the plan to move the Suns team to New York will fall flat on its face.
- JL
I do wish that he could have greater success. I remember being excited with him coming to Golden State, and I thought that he would develop into a Kevin Garnett type of player - a tall and long player with wiry strength.
Unfortunately, he is now viewed more as a piece of meat than a star player. Both the Raptors and the Heat view him as a big body whom they need in the front court. These two teams would be glad to take anyone who has the size. However, the Spurs or Magic would actually try to develop him to play strategically within their system.
- JL
Now, fast forward several years. Isiah finds out that his Bad Boy routine doesn't work in the front office, and he leaves behind a royal mess in New York centered around another guard named Starbury. Meanwhile McHale, who is trying to revive his own front office career with the Wolves, has an opportunity to take Starbury and improve his own team.
Does he take Isiah's cast-off player Starbury and try to use this player's strong potential, or does he believe that Starbury cannot be rehabilitated?
The saga continues.
He has his longer contract with the Clippers, but he's also miserable with the playing conditions and the fact that Brand and Maggette are no longer there.
- JL