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With the job that he is doing at UNA I think if he waits a few years and has a few more awesome seasons like this one, then he will be back in one of the major programs. For a school in UNA's division, they are willing to give him the support to continue this type of season.

Who knows, maybe Auburn will want him back in a few years?

Either yesterday or the day before the bank, which is based in B'ham, Alabama, initiated a lawsuit against RR and his associates. RR's part of the suit it 3.9 million. That's a lot of pressure to make this season work so the salary keeps coming in.

I guess my question is why he would want to do it? Although he might higher in the draft if he stayed another year AND had a good, injury free year, why would he want to take the risk. Given his past injuries, all it would take is one more serious injury that could lose him an NFL career altogether. Why not go ahead and go for the draft now and then do grad school or whatever in the off season like others? Steve Young did his law degree while an active player in the NFL.

My only concern with Muschamp is patience. He signed a 10 year contract but he can't seriously expect to wait 10 years to take over. And Mack doesn't seem in any hurry to retire and why would he? He is one year younger than Saban. So when a sweetheart of a head coaching postion is offered to him later on, should he consider it? But this Auburn job would be suicidal. Chizik seems to be the sacrificial lamb. The admin and Board of Trustees, as long as they remain of the same ilk, no head coach is going to be up to their standards. S

Well he should be able to get a good look at both teams on the 29th. Although I can't imagine that Tuberville is excited that he will be sitting on the Bama side.

From what is coming out of Clemson, although they are claiming that he resigned they are paying him the rest of this year's salary PLUS the 3.5 million buyout. It looks like the "resignation" is just trying to put a happy face on it since it's mid season.

My queston is what does he think he is doing to make comments like this to the press. Not the best way to motivate your team. Sounds to me like a coaching issue.

BrockOne it's funny you mention Pop Warner. The PW team my daughter cheers for played Saturday against a team that had multiple personal fouls called on them and every time they players would come to the side their coach would pat them on the back and congratulate them especially if it caused us to lose a player from the game.

I think the players learn early on that there are no real PERSONAL consequences to the personal fouls and so they persist in the hopes that it might just not be noticed and give them a big gain. I applaud any coach that makes the decision to punish the behavior. Those kinds of "mistakes" can not only cause injuries but they can lose the game. Look at Georgia with all their late hits etc... Without those it could have been a closer game. The rest of the team and the fans lose on those kinds of mistakes.

CenLA Tiger you are so right in your comment,"but some of their fans are real idiots as well. As I always say "everybody has that crazy uncle"

Every team has fans gone bad. Being an avid fan doesn't mean that you have to be rabid. There are some Alabama fans that can get out of hand and there are fans from every other team that are the same. When I was 6 months pregnant with my oldest child I had a Tennessee fan sitting in the midst of Bama fans that deliberately pushed me as I was going down the steps at Legion Field. If someone hadn't caught me I would have gone all the way down the steps rather than sliding down just a few. And when I returned a few minutes later, his wife/girlfriend apologized and then made him leave the game with her. Her comment was that he was mad because they were losing the game. Everybody has fans like this who just can't stand losing and don't do it well.

And you are so right about fans, not just from LSU, who are not grateful for a season that is less than perfect. There are so many teams that would just like enough wins to get in a minor bowl and would be grateful for anything they can get.

Utahfannation or whatever you call yourself. I would like to respond to your comments. As far as doing research, I think you need to do a little more than going to Wikipedia which is where you obviously copied your facts. One, I did state in my earlier post, that it was based on what the University of Alabama recognized. But, also if you did your research properly you would realize that Notre Dame and other schools ALSO do not recognize some of the National Championship because of the sources of the championships. Some of the ones listed on these "lists" are from minor polls or they were dual National Championship and the schools choose not to recognize them.

Also, yes some of the Ivy league schools have more but because they are not considered in the same league now they are not listed in the current statistical standings.

Yes, I did MY research before I posted. There will always be disagreements about the number of NCs from school to school and the numbers can be manipulated. To be honest, though a life long Bama fan, I had never even thought about the number of NCs we had until the broadcasters for the Texas vs USC national championship in the 2006 Rose Bowl. They were the ones to bring up Pete Carol's longing to beat ALABAMA to have the most number of RECOGNIZED NC's. So don't jump on somebody until you have done a thorough search to make sure you are right. And one of the websites I did go to was the University of Alabama website and that confirmed what I had learned about recognized vs unrecognized NCs.

The sad thing is this hatred of Alabama. You know when I started going to Alabama games when I was 6 or 7 years old, one thing that I was taught was that although we might be playing a rival, they had fans that cared just as much for their team as I did for mine. I can remember the classy fans from Penn State, Nebraska and Notre Dame even when things didn't go their way. I can remember the class of the Boston College fans when I went to see Doug Flutie whoop up on us and how the fans were gracious and helpful to a group of college kids from out of town. I also remember how the Alabama fans welcomed other SEC teams and non-conference teams into their home fields, whether Legion Field or Bryant - Denny. And Bear Bryant expected class from the players as well as the fans. I can still remember the trouble I got into with my Dad at an Alabama/Auburn game when I was 10 years old and I yelled War Chicken.

Despite some bad years lately and consistent losses to some teams, I don't hate them or try to find something wrong with them. And though I have a severe dislike for Philip Fulmer, this doesn't translate into a hatred of Tennessee. So I guess I just don't understand the hatred and jealousy.

Utahfannatic or whatever you are called.

I actually got MY facts from the real source, the NCAA website. I know it is too difficult for some people but all that you have to do is google is NCAA national champions. I did say in my comment that the University itself does NOT recognize all that the NCAA does. So not only do YOU need to check YOUR facts you need to learn how to READ.

Amen BruceS1G!

If everyone is going to bring up the past and winning is important then maybe it would be that Alabama has the most National Championships of any other Division 1A football team and that is based on the ones that the University recognizes and not those that the NCAA recognizes because of split decisions etc...

So maybe that is the reason for the jealousy. We may have been 16 years without one but we still hold the record.

Isn't this about a recruit? Seems that the non-Bama fans have digressed off topic. It's about recruiting, doing what a coach and a team are supposed to do. It's about aggressively going after talent even if that means getting a recruit to change their mind. There is nothing shady about it. How many recruits jump ship when they see a team that has been successful, have a bad year? Any that are serious about a career in football beyond college. It's about going somewhere that you can shine, get TV time and get noticed by the national press.

Saban is aggressively going after both in state and out of state talent and I think that is what scares Georgia and LSU fans. Richt from Georgia was upset that the Clemson/ Alabama game was in Atlanta, all because of recruiting. And it looks like it is going to happen again next year with Bama playing Virginia Tech in Atlanta for the season opener. Again, all for recruiting those top Georgia prospects.

And to the comments about Saban to USC if Pete Caroll goes to the Rams. Well, that seems to me that it would be unlikely. Historically, the coach that comes in after a long time, revered coach leaves a winning program is faced with the type of battle that a coach, any coach, that has a history of success, doesn't want to face. The internal polictics makes coaching much more difficult. You can ask Ray Perkins. Or any number of others that still have the scars to prove it. Doesn't mean it wouldn't happen but makes it highly unlikely. But it doesn't mean that some other sliding program that needs a rescue won't come after Saban with the big bucks. There are a few around the SEC that are in and out of the hot seat.

And to those who were commenting about Saban's son and at the same time mentioning him going to USC. IF that were a factor in his family wanting to leave Miami, do you seriously think that they would EVER consider moving to LA.

As for me, I think any offer Saban gets, Alabama will counter. The money is out there and the desire for another dynasty will give the motivation. He's already considered the most powerful coach in any sport (according to Forbes) and that comes with what Alabama is giving him, and not just in material gains. That is going to be very difficult to negotiate anywhere else.

Back on task, I think this was talking about a verbal commitment that is having second thoughts. The problem these early commitments is multiple. One they are kids and they will change their minds. Ask my 14 year old. Oh, well he changed his mind.

Although this was about an early commit to Auburn, Georgia is one team that tries to get early commitments from their Georgia boys. But Richt is the first to admit that it has problems. In an article discussing a top recruit that he missed that went to Bama, he said that any kids that show promise later on into their senior year tend to get overlooked.

With the early commits there is also the risk of injury in their final year and then suddenly your back to square one. Or if the promise in their junior year is not fulfilled in their senior year. A lot of risks.

And then there is Saban who is aggressively going after the Georgia recruits as it is still a just a few hours down the interstate from Tuscaloosa to say Atlanta. That was the reason for the Clemson/ Alabama game in Atlanta and from an article in the Crimson and White this week, an announcement is pending any day now that Alabama will repeat the season opener in Atlanta going up against West Virginia. Since Richt protested vehemently against the Clemson game, I would love to see it when he gets the news of a repeat. For Saban it's all about recruits.

Whether a player is just charged or convicted there should be some action taken at least temporarily by the school. If nothing else to show future players that there are consequences. Even if it gets taken down to a misdemeanor, what he was doing, would have been against team rules in season (as well as probably out of season) and should face missing at least one game.

I don't care what team it is, if a player is in violation of team rules or has flat out broken the law he should be faced with at least a one game suspension. It is hard on a team and can have consequences for the team as a whole when a star player has to sit on the bench. But, the pressure from the other team members for this NOT to happen again will be more likely to stop the behavior from being repeated. There's nothing like a 350 defensive lineman angry at you for costing the team a game. If it were me, it would make me less likely to do it again.

Fulmer has had off field issues but not just with his team. He had focused too much time in the past decade to undermining other SEC teams and not enough time building a dynasty like the Tennessee fans want. This focus has led to off field legal issues that he is having to deal with now and they look like they are causing a distraction. He needs to step down and deal with these and then if someone wants him after that, then go back to coaching. But not in the SEC, there are few, if any, teams there that would want the burden.