Was it really necessary to use this article as another opportunity to disparage Tebow?
I guess, then, that you believe that it doesn't take much of a qb to do what Manning couldn't--win a playoff game with the Broncos. I guess you also believe that it doesn't take much of a qb to throw for 316 yards, complete 2 TD passes against zero interceptions, rush for 50 yards, score a rushing touchdown, set an all-time NFL record of 31.6 yards per pass completion, set a Broncos' playoff passer rating record of 125.6 (sorry Elway and Manning) and lead Denver to a playoff victory over the Steelers and their top-rated passing defense in only his 15th career start. Is there any need to mention the myriad of 4th-quarter comebacks, TD passes-to-INT ratio, rushing average, etc, or does a sub-50% completion percentage by a young qb with only one season's worth of starts under his belt (much like Elway, Bradshaw, etc) trump all other stats including wins?
I will concede that it doesn't take much of a qb to own a higher career passer rating than Sanchez, and Tebow has certainly accomplished that, which begs the question of why Ryan continued to start the "Sanchize" in the midst of some of the most horrific qb play in recent NFL memory? Do you think that it might have been due to Ryan's over-inflated ego and the fear of looking foolish if Sanchez were benched in favor of Tebow and the Jets actually started to win? My guess is "yes," but those of a contrary opinion are certainly entitled to keep parroting the company line.
I believe that the goal in any sport is to win, correct? Garcia had some statistical success for a very BRIEF period of time, but none of the teams that he quarterbacked over the course of his 12-year NFL career ever came close to winning a championship. In fact, Garcia only led his team to the playoffs in 4 of those years and as has already been pointed out by myself and others, the result of those playoff appearances was a less-than-remarkable 2-4 record.
At any rate, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by repeatedly posting Garcia's career highlights, but playing in the NFL does not automatically qualify Garcia, or anyone else for that matter, as an expert on NFL personnel matters. And THAT is more pertinent to this discussion than any marginal success that Garcia enjoyed during his playing days.
By the way, no matter how many times you reference that 49ers playoff appearance against the Packers, it won't change the fact that Garcia's underthrown 4th-quarter interception basically sealed Green Bay's win.
It was a classless move by Garcia, and Sanchez will be even more classless if he remains silent. After committing FIFTY turnovers during the past two seasons, you would think that Sanchez and his "guru" would be happy that he even has the opportunity to compete for a roster spot, let alone be talking smack about anyone else.
Over the course of his 12-year NFL career, Garcia managed to compile a 2-4 (.333) playoff record. Over the course of fewer than 20 career starts, Tebow has compiled a 1-1 (.500) playoff record. I'm not certain if 2 wins are "MUCH" better than 1 win, but I'm fairly certain that .333 IS "MUCH" worse than .500 :)
Seriously, doesn't Mularkey see the irony in his comments? Despite being fired, he still seems so arrogant that he won't even consider the possibility that he might have been wrong about sticking with his "franchise" quarterback.
"4) Being Mark Sanchezes' "guru" indicates that Garcia is biased and incapable of expressing a *subjective* opinion of Sanchez and the Jets' quarterback situation--unless he wants to lose his guru gig."
That should be OBJECTIVE and not subjective, since Garcia is obviously being subjective in his enthusiastic evaluation of Sanchez.
If you're going to be redundant and continue to reference that 2002 playoff game, I guess I will be redundant and remind you that Garcia tossed an underthrown interception during that contest which sealed the 49ers loss to the Packers. Following that fourth-quarter interception, Green Bay drove for the final touchdown of the game while essentially running out the clock.
Again, what does Garcia's success as a player, or lack thereof, have to do with his ability to accurately evaluate NFL personnel? That's rhetorical, so I'll answer it myself: Nothing, especially when he's the "guru" of the quarterback whom he's evaluating and when the player whom he suggests be JETtisoned (pun intended) is in direct competition with his pupil.
1) Despite your insistence to the contrary, Garcia is not necessarily an authority on NFL personnel matters merely because he played in the NFL.
2) Again, despite your insistence to the contrary, this article is most definitely about Tebow, Garcia AND Sanchez.
3) I thought it was obvious that my reference to Jordan and his poor personnel decisions (i.e. Kwame Brown, etc) was an analogy. It's an example that even athletes who are much more accomplished than Garcia (i.e. Jordan) are often lousy evaluators of talent. Being a former football player doesn't automatically make Garcia a good evaluator of NFL talent any more than being a former and perhaps the best player of all-time automatically makes Jordan a good evaluator of NBA talent.
4) Being Mark Sanchezes' "guru" indicates that Garcia is biased and incapable of expressing a subjective opinion of Sanchez and the Jets' quarterback situation--unless he wants to lose his guru gig.
And that automatically makes Garcia an authority on personnel matters? Have you watched Sanchez play?
What about Michael Jordan? He's certainly an infinitely more accomplished athlete than Sanchez, but how good was he at evaluating talent? Remember Kwame Brown (among many mediocre others)?
In other words, Garcia's NFL stats, which include minimal postseason success, are irrelevant when he's discussing his "client's" ability. Obviously, a "guru" will be biased when discussing his pupil.
By the way, that 2002 Packers playoff victory over the 49ers that you referenced was sealed when Garcia tossed an underthrown 4th-quarter interception which resulted in a Green Bay touchdown drive.
Actually, isn't an NFL qb "guru" suggesting that his client's competition be eliminated comparable to a Little League parent demanding that the coach play his/her child?
* "Perhaps Garcia wants the Jets to declare Sanchez their quarterback for life no matter how he badly he performs (FIFTY over the past two seasons) . . ."
Sorry, that should be "Perhaps Garcia wants the Jets to declare Sanchez their quarterback for life no matter how badly he performs (FIFTY TURNOVERS over the past two seasons) . . ."
Let's see: Garcia is Sanchezes' QB "guru" and he wants to have Tebow barred from competing against his pupil. This begs two questions: 1) Isn't Garcia more than a tad bit biased? 2) If Garcia honestly believes that Tim Tebow is no threat to win the starting qb job, then why is Garcia (and by extension, Sanchez) so worried about allowing Tebow to compete for the job?
Perhaps Garcia wants the Jets to declare Sanchez their quarterback for life no matter how he badly he performs (FIFTY over the past two seasons) and no matter how many losses he contibutes to. Or maybe Garcia realizes that if Tebow is ever given the opportunity to start for the Jets, he just might duplicate some of the success that he enjoyed in Denver when he quarterbacked what had been a 7-24 team (in the previous 31 games before he started in 2011) to a playoff berth and a playoff win over the Steelers.
In reality, Sanchez should be embarrassed that Ryan continued to start him last season in spite of his increasingly inept performances, and he should be willing to compete against ALL challengers to prove that he deserves the job. In fact, Sanchez should be thankful that HE is even allowed an opportunity to compete for the job. Regardless, this was a classless move by Garcia and it will be an even more classless move by Sanchez if he doesn't denounce his "guru's" comments.
Uh, Manning and the offense only scored 21 points against the Ravens--Trindon Holliday returned TWO kicks for scores.
By the way, the Tebow-led Broncos rang up 29 points on the the top-rated Steelers defense in last year's playoff win, with Tebow accounting for 366 total yards and all three Denver touchdowns (2 TD passes and 1 rushing TD).
Tell me again, how many playoff games has Manning won with the Broncos? Better yet, since you're a Cowboys fan, tell me who's won more playoff games the past two years, Tebow or Romo? Or how about this one: Who has a better winning percentage in the playoffs--Tebow, Manning or Romo?
After that lame post, it's quite apparent that Tebow is infinitely more proficient at playing football than you are at writing humor--or whatever you call that.
There are numerous differences between Tebow and Sanchez, but haters can't see past the hate, right? First off, the Broncos were 1-4 when Tebow took over as the starter for Denver, and the Broncos had gone 7-24 in their previous 31 games (that's not a typo) without so much as sniffing the playoffs for FIVE years. Sanchez took over as the starter of a team that was coming off of back-to-back 8-8 seasons. In fact, the year prior to Sanchez's arrival, the Jets were 8-5 and had just beaten the Patriots in N.E. when Favre was injured, causing him and the Jets to falter badly down the stretch. If Favre doesn't get hurt, the Jets likely would have made the playoffs the year before Sanchez arrived. In other words, when Sanchez became the starter for the Jets, they were MUCH better than the Denver Broncos were when Tebow took over as the starter of the Broncos.
And I love how haters keep parroting that the Tebow-led Broncos went 1-4 in their final 5 games of 2011, as if the 7-1 record in Denver's previous 8 games didn't count. Moreover, I've never once witnessed a Tebow detractor admit that the one victory in that 1-4 stretch was the playoff win over the Steelers--a game in which Tebow threw for 316 yards, 2 touchdowns, zero ints, set a Broncos' all-time postseason passer rating record (125.6), completed FIVE passes of over 30 yards against the NFL's leading passing defense and rushed for 50 yards while also scoring a rushing touchdown (what a shocker--rushing yardage actually COUNTS in the NFL, too). One other thing about that 1-4 finish, in addition to beating the Steelers, two of those losses were to the Patriots--I wouldn't consider losing to the Pats to be a disgrace, how about you?
Again, there are major differences between Sanchez's and Tebow's situations, with the most glaring being that Sanchez has been given almost 4 years worth of NFL starts to prove himself, while Tebow has only had 16 mostly-successful career starts.
What an ignorant "post." Tebow has many things that you'll likely never have, with class being at the top of the list.
I hope this report is true and that Ryan is still with the Jets the next time the Jags and Jets meet on the field. I can't wait to see the look on Rex's face when Tebow performs another beat down on that lame Jets' "team" and runs his record to 2-0 against them.
I guess, then, that you believe that it doesn't take much of a qb to do what Manning couldn't--win a playoff game with the Broncos. I guess you also believe that it doesn't take much of a qb to throw for 316 yards, complete 2 TD passes against zero interceptions, rush for 50 yards, score a rushing touchdown, set an all-time NFL record of 31.6 yards per pass completion, set a Broncos' playoff passer rating record of 125.6 (sorry Elway and Manning) and lead Denver to a playoff victory over the Steelers and their top-rated passing defense in only his 15th career start. Is there any need to mention the myriad of 4th-quarter comebacks, TD passes-to-INT ratio, rushing average, etc, or does a sub-50% completion percentage by a young qb with only one season's worth of starts under his belt (much like Elway, Bradshaw, etc) trump all other stats including wins?
I will concede that it doesn't take much of a qb to own a higher career passer rating than Sanchez, and Tebow has certainly accomplished that, which begs the question of why Ryan continued to start the "Sanchize" in the midst of some of the most horrific qb play in recent NFL memory? Do you think that it might have been due to Ryan's over-inflated ego and the fear of looking foolish if Sanchez were benched in favor of Tebow and the Jets actually started to win? My guess is "yes," but those of a contrary opinion are certainly entitled to keep parroting the company line.
At any rate, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by repeatedly posting Garcia's career highlights, but playing in the NFL does not automatically qualify Garcia, or anyone else for that matter, as an expert on NFL personnel matters. And THAT is more pertinent to this discussion than any marginal success that Garcia enjoyed during his playing days.
By the way, no matter how many times you reference that 49ers playoff appearance against the Packers, it won't change the fact that Garcia's underthrown 4th-quarter interception basically sealed Green Bay's win.
That should be OBJECTIVE and not subjective, since Garcia is obviously being subjective in his enthusiastic evaluation of Sanchez.
Again, what does Garcia's success as a player, or lack thereof, have to do with his ability to accurately evaluate NFL personnel? That's rhetorical, so I'll answer it myself: Nothing, especially when he's the "guru" of the quarterback whom he's evaluating and when the player whom he suggests be JETtisoned (pun intended) is in direct competition with his pupil.
2) Again, despite your insistence to the contrary, this article is most definitely about Tebow, Garcia AND Sanchez.
3) I thought it was obvious that my reference to Jordan and his poor personnel decisions (i.e. Kwame Brown, etc) was an analogy. It's an example that even athletes who are much more accomplished than Garcia (i.e. Jordan) are often lousy evaluators of talent. Being a former football player doesn't automatically make Garcia a good evaluator of NFL talent any more than being a former and perhaps the best player of all-time automatically makes Jordan a good evaluator of NBA talent.
4) Being Mark Sanchezes' "guru" indicates that Garcia is biased and incapable of expressing a subjective opinion of Sanchez and the Jets' quarterback situation--unless he wants to lose his guru gig.
What about Michael Jordan? He's certainly an infinitely more accomplished athlete than Sanchez, but how good was he at evaluating talent? Remember Kwame Brown (among many mediocre others)?
In other words, Garcia's NFL stats, which include minimal postseason success, are irrelevant when he's discussing his "client's" ability. Obviously, a "guru" will be biased when discussing his pupil.
By the way, that 2002 Packers playoff victory over the 49ers that you referenced was sealed when Garcia tossed an underthrown 4th-quarter interception which resulted in a Green Bay touchdown drive.
Sorry, that should be "Perhaps Garcia wants the Jets to declare Sanchez their quarterback for life no matter how badly he performs (FIFTY TURNOVERS over the past two seasons) . . ."
Perhaps Garcia wants the Jets to declare Sanchez their quarterback for life no matter how he badly he performs (FIFTY over the past two seasons) and no matter how many losses he contibutes to. Or maybe Garcia realizes that if Tebow is ever given the opportunity to start for the Jets, he just might duplicate some of the success that he enjoyed in Denver when he quarterbacked what had been a 7-24 team (in the previous 31 games before he started in 2011) to a playoff berth and a playoff win over the Steelers.
In reality, Sanchez should be embarrassed that Ryan continued to start him last season in spite of his increasingly inept performances, and he should be willing to compete against ALL challengers to prove that he deserves the job. In fact, Sanchez should be thankful that HE is even allowed an opportunity to compete for the job. Regardless, this was a classless move by Garcia and it will be an even more classless move by Sanchez if he doesn't denounce his "guru's" comments.
By the way, the Tebow-led Broncos rang up 29 points on the the top-rated Steelers defense in last year's playoff win, with Tebow accounting for 366 total yards and all three Denver touchdowns (2 TD passes and 1 rushing TD).
Tell me again, how many playoff games has Manning won with the Broncos? Better yet, since you're a Cowboys fan, tell me who's won more playoff games the past two years, Tebow or Romo? Or how about this one: Who has a better winning percentage in the playoffs--Tebow, Manning or Romo?
And I love how haters keep parroting that the Tebow-led Broncos went 1-4 in their final 5 games of 2011, as if the 7-1 record in Denver's previous 8 games didn't count. Moreover, I've never once witnessed a Tebow detractor admit that the one victory in that 1-4 stretch was the playoff win over the Steelers--a game in which Tebow threw for 316 yards, 2 touchdowns, zero ints, set a Broncos' all-time postseason passer rating record (125.6), completed FIVE passes of over 30 yards against the NFL's leading passing defense and rushed for 50 yards while also scoring a rushing touchdown (what a shocker--rushing yardage actually COUNTS in the NFL, too). One other thing about that 1-4 finish, in addition to beating the Steelers, two of those losses were to the Patriots--I wouldn't consider losing to the Pats to be a disgrace, how about you?
Again, there are major differences between Sanchez's and Tebow's situations, with the most glaring being that Sanchez has been given almost 4 years worth of NFL starts to prove himself, while Tebow has only had 16 mostly-successful career starts.
I hope this report is true and that Ryan is still with the Jets the next time the Jags and Jets meet on the field. I can't wait to see the look on Rex's face when Tebow performs another beat down on that lame Jets' "team" and runs his record to 2-0 against them.